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Consent to be married, loved, cherrished ....not consent to be raped. You base your argument on a faulty premise. Does a woman consent to be treated like a whore? Does a woman consent to be cheated on? Does she consent to being slapped when dinner is late? Is she consenting to be forced to...

And this is a fact even within a marriage, as well as outside a marriage. What it engenders will be anger, fear, hate, and loss of respect for any husband who claims he has the right to rape his own wife. Stop. I don't want to. Ow that hurts. Quit. Get off me. Move your knee. You're...

You know, don't you, that God put away His wife rather than force her to do His will?

Not rejected. Just insisting scripture be kept in context, and people aren't claiming it's saying what it isn't. For instance, read further. 1 Cor. 7:6 But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment. 7 For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper...

You work too hard to prove what you have in your own imagination. You can't compare any of that to raping one's own wife or forcing her to do anything against her own free will. God does not do that to us, and you are nowhere close to God. Try harder. You won't get there with any amount of...

Nothing there about forcing a wife to have sex. Keep looking. It'll do you good.

Yep, and yet there is all this silly squabbling about a "godly" man forcing his wife to have sex. :mad: Was our Lord able to abstain from sex when He walked among us? Can a man locked up in a Japanese prison camp live without having sex? Is that junk that important that one's cherished wife...

When in fact, it's the opposite. The husband, by forcing himself on his wife, has freed her from the marriage.

Great, I appreciate the kindergarten lesson concerning witnesses. However, God's law and God's standards hold NO sway in this kingdom on EARTH at this time. Are you so blind that you think the world would look like this if God was in control? :rolleyes: Now, trot yourself in a courtroom...

You enjoy falsely accusing me....simply because you don't have enough spiritual understanding to hear clearly what was said? You don't even know what the New Testament is. If you did, you'd know that witnesses will not be needed in that day. And, this absurd comment, "So you would take the...

Satan is the god of this world, and witnesses answer to ungodly men, so I'd not count on that.

They don't want the truth to come out.

So, if God has a kingdom on Mars, and a kingdom on earth, you'd still call them the same kingdom? What if Mars was populated by spiritual beings and earth was populated by physical beings? Don't you think it's possible for the Son of Man to sit on David's throne, while the Son of God sits on...

Well, they're wrong.

Oh, so you don't believe there is a heavenly kingdom and an earthly kingdom? One is on earth and one is in heaven. Heavenly throne with earth as His footstool. You've heard of that, right? Isaiah 66:1 Thus saith the Lord, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the...

It's relevant as to whether a husband has a right to rape his wife, and whether she has a right to refuse him sex. That seems to be what is being discussed here. Does a husband have the right to rape his wife? Either morally or legally? What say you.

The standard is, of course, the Bible. We're here to find truth in scripture. When someone interprets the Bible with only a partial understanding....they fall short of the truth as it's written. I'm pretty sure that's why we're all here.

No, a kingdom on earth and a kingdom in heaven. Christ on earth and the Risen Ascended Lord. Your quote is totally off base.

Aren't we all entitled to our own opinions? When someone claims they have the right to rape their own wife, those who see the error are obliged to speak up. Hoping to convince someone of their error ...aside from the simple matter of right and wrong.

And if it's the lawful husband being accused of this act of force?