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  1. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    All of your examples are based on a false concept of flat earth which is why we must start with a correct one as per my quiz. --Dave Sent from my iPhone using TOL
  2. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Short quiz Three cosmological models, which is the correct one? What things do flat, geocentric, and heliocentric earth, all have in common? 1. They all have the same calendar. 2. They all account for eclipses. 3. They all have the same continents, islands, rivers, oceans, etc. 4. --Dave
  3. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    In your basement? If you have a point to make, make it. --Dave
  4. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    If you have a point to make, make it. --Dave
  5. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Gravity is density turned into a "weak magnet" for a globe earth. --Dave
  6. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Short quiz Three cosmological models, which is the correct one? What things do flat, geocentric, and heliocentric earth, all have in common? 1. They all have the same calendar. 2. They all account for eclipses. 3. Next? --Dave
  7. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    There are plenty of pictures of the Chicago skyline from across Lake Michigan. I don't know when or how often that occurs, but here is a website that talks about it. Chicago Skyline from Warren Dunes Across Lake Michigan "This photo is really, really awesome because I think you're capturing...
  8. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The globe is "counter intuitive" to what we see and know about water is the point. The globe is "counter intuitive" to what we experience as uphill and down hill, right side up and upside down as well. Relativity did not begin with Einstein, it seems it began with globe earth. --Dave
  9. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    There's are important common "unknown" aspects to all three. The differences are already obvious. --Dave
  10. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Short quiz Three cosmological models, which is the correct one? What things do flat, geocentric, and heliocentric earth, all have in common? 1. I'll start with same calendar 2. What else? --Dave
  11. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I don't want to expand this thread to include flood geology and the nature of the firmament above. But I will simply say that the flood story does not negate the flat earth model in my view. The flood story does not negate the globe model either in my view. But I will absolutely not get into the...
  12. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    My explanation is absolutely correct and irrefutable. --Dave
  13. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    There are still hills and mountains on the flat earth model. --Dave
  14. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Both flat earth and globe earth have hills, mountains, and valleys. Flat earth simply means the land and oceans are not on a huge spinning sphere moving through space around the sun. Flat earth means, what you see is real. The earth is seen to be stationary and "over all" (think big) flat. This...
  15. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Just stand and imagine you're on a globe, where you are standing is exactly at the very top off the globe. As you turn every direction gradually over distance curves down ward away from you. Some one at the very bottom of this globe is seeing it exactly as you are. To them you are at the...
  16. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    There is no "actual" uphill or downhill on a globe. Downhill to you is uphill to everyone else, etc. This contradicts the earth we see and experience. --Dave
  17. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    "Evolution happens irrespective of whether we understand how or don't understand", is a statement of "belief". The "physical" sciences are founded on evidence that can be "falsified" and are supposed to be subject to empirical sensory "verification". Evolution like globe earth is based on...
  18. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Fog appears even on clear days. --Dave
  19. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The lakes are always subject to "haze" and "fog", that can obscure distant shores at any distance. --Dave
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