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All of us view the ground rising up as it meets the horizon line of our eye level. We know that the ground is still level and the road ahead is still the same width even though it appears narrower as it reaches the horizon line. These people have not gone over a curved earth when comparing...

Just as a square is not a box, a circle is not a sphere. Both are flat. A tent would be like a dome. --Dave

Your argument is non sequitur. We have never seen Jesus, Abraham, etc. but we can "see" the earth, we can "see" that it's not curved, and we can "see" that it's not moving. We don't have to argue what we can actually "see". We don't have to prove what we see, we must however prove that what we...

MAX IGAN's Santiago to Sydney Flight Shows Globe Anomaly --Dave

Rob Skiba proves Chicago skyline isn't a mirage - Flat Earth ? - Mark Sargent --Dave

Flat Earth or Superior Mirage - Chicago Skyline --Dave

Any comments on the videos I posted? You asked questions that these guys answer far better than I can. --Dave

Pro Engineer Explains Problems with the ISS, Satellites & the Thermosphere Flat Earth --Dave

Message from a Whistle Blower engineer Satellites --Dave

Ships disappear on flat earth because of distance, not curvature. --Dave

I don't see GPS or satellites as a proof of any thing. The fact remains that you and I and 99.9% of the rest of the world don't "see" satellites circling a globed earth. NASA controls space regardless of who owns whatever goes there. --Dave

I can see the earth, unlike your examples, from the ground and from an air plane I can view it over many miles of what should be obvious curvature, and "all" visual evidence is that the earth is flat and stationary. To say we can't see the curve because the earth is too large and then say we...

That's an opinion. --Dave

An orbit is a circle. :beanboy: No one has ever seen a satellite do a complete circle around the globe. We have only NASA to believe that this is happening. Just what does propel them? Once up there why don't they just come right back down and what keeps them on an exact course? --Dave

Nikon P900 Superzoom: Lake Pontchartrain Causeway From this short video we can "see" actual traffic beyond the horizon line leading up to the bridge. The traffic has a direct mirrored image (reflection) "under" it and "upside down" that we call an inferior mirage that obscures that is actually...

You want answers? --Dave

All your stupid leading questions will be ignored until you make a point or argument. --Dave

You mean, "gotcha", you're so clever, I surrender :rotfl: Now if you knew any thing about the flat earth model, you would know that you can still put planes, satellites, balloons, etc. and fly them in a "circle" in low earth orbit for GPS, or what ever. That's why I want you all to stop...

In debate, you or I make a point/argument, then there is a response, counter point. Make a point and stop asking leading questions, which are pointless until you make an argument. --Dave

See my last post, how does debate work. --Dave