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Did you read about the Gibeonites? They gave false testimony to the Israelites, who made a treaty with them under the false pretenses, but God held them to that treaty. He sent famine in David's time because Saul violated that treaty many years later.

Are you justifying breaking a vow? God didn't allow that, even without full informed consent. See David's fix of Saul's breaking of Joshua's treaty with the Gibeonites.

That's not what Peter said.

But Peter was writing to the mostly Gentile churches Paul wrote to.

It wasn't my choice to ban you, and I appreciate that you would have stayed on topic. The flat earth gig is a major distraction for believers.

I'm not interested here, because of all the junk I've read from the flat earthers. I wasn't interested there, because it was off topic.

Doubt you would know whether I have or not.

It was because he hadn't named the firmament until the 5th time. After he named it, then he associated the two words from then on. Don't you think it weird for there to be lights in the firmament, called "heavens", when heaven is on earth, as you said?

That's got to be the goofiest misreading of a passage I've ever heard (barring the flat earth readings)

But the BOC can't afford one-woman-men now? Why is Paul's direction to allow marriage discarded in favor of someone's who's obviously less qualified to decide?

Maybe more so. Practicing murderers rarely recruit for their craft. Nor rapists. Homosexuals almost always do, to feed their lusts. They do it through legislation aimed at children. That child rapist you mentioned? Mostly they are homosexuals. So you recognize some of the problem. There is...

There you have it. Society has a safety need, and sodomy, named for Lot's town, was unsafe--even before the mosaic law.

Why? What advantage did it offer them?

Is that a current answer, or one that has always applied?

I don't always agree with @Clete and you, JR, but I agree that was a stellar post.

Howdy!

And Paul says the Gentiles are brought into something that used to be uniquely Jewish. Ephesians 2:11-13 (KJV) 11 Wherefore remember, that ye [being] in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12 That at...

This is all very interesting, but pretty far off topic.

I drove through Boston once. Does that count?

I'd say he's very trying.