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  1. Derf

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    Why would a husband ever need to resort to forced sex?
  2. Derf

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    Nope, not kidding.
  3. Derf

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    Prove it. Surely you have a bible. If not, go to blb.org. They have several versions to pick from.
  4. Derf

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    David stopped having sex with Michal after she derided his dancing. Was he right or wrong?
  5. Derf

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    Adultery is indefensible too, don't you think?
  6. Derf

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    You still haven't explained why your garbage is any better than Paul's.
  7. Derf

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    But is that law correct? Or are you willing to accept any law on the books? What if your city council decided to punish someone caught in adultery with death?
  8. Derf

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    I think he's speaking of this: 1 Corinthians 7:6 (KJV) But I speak this by permission, [and] not of commandment. The question would follow as to which of the preceding verses it applies. Surely it doesn't apply to vs 5, making it merely a suggestion not to defraud one's spouse. Can you imagine...
  9. Derf

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    Can you find one of those places where rape is condemned? Do any of those speak of husband and wife as the participants? How would you know what a "grip" looks like? Your own personal law code? You have no critiqueable or even accessible source of ethics, yet you want to impose that on...
  10. Derf

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    What about Paul's comments I mentioned? And the question, if I remember correctly, was whether the Bible sanctions marital rape. My answer, using Paul's words, was that the spouse has the authority over the other's body with regard to sex. It's not a question of willingness once they are united...
  11. Derf

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    Are you saying that women determine what is right vs wrong in a marriage?
  12. Derf

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    So Paul of Tarsus was a wing nut?
  13. Derf

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    According to you, o great lawgiver.
  14. Derf

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    In a loving relationship there is no need to use force, because neither party is unrighteously holding back what belongs to the other.
  15. Derf

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    Yes...over my body, at least in regard to sex.
  16. Derf

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    Why would you assume I'd do that?
  17. Derf

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    By whose decision? Yours? Since when do you make the rules? You say I can't give myself to my wife?
  18. Derf

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    The forcing isn't the "right"--the sex is the "right", for either partner. 1 Corinthians 7:4 (KJV) The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. If I have power over her body, and she over mine, force isn't...
  19. Derf

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    Which is exactly what I said quite a few posts back.
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