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My point was that not everything that could be considered a canopy would end up looking like Saturn's rings. Another thought is that the rain forest treetops are considered a canopy, but air and water can go through it. That would be similar to a net-work or lattice idea for the windows of heaven.

We currently have a canopy. It's called "the ozone layer", and it does not look like the rings of Saturn.

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Probably. You just set one of the particles to 2:45 PM, and other particle automatically jumps to 2:45 PM. 😂

I think they have to be perfectly in sync to show what he wanted to show. And there's some question whether that's possible. The idea of a camera instead of a sensor is to capture an image showing the light's progress. If it makes it partway through the field of view, as represented in the...

Personally, I find the one-way speed of light idea to be similar to employing miracles to explain everything we don't understand. I'm pretty sure Bob was against it, too. He had devised an experiment to test it, if I remember correctly. (I'm not sure his experiment would work, but he explained...

@JudgeRightly. If I may jump in here, I think I understand what Clete is getting at. If the stretching was completed prior to day 7, then anything older than 7500 years would have occurred during the "very good" portion of creation, and stars imploding or exploding dont fit your definition of...

Absolutely. That doesn't mean I'm completely on board with it, but it is a biblically sound, physical, material cause (fountains of the deep) for a physical, material phenomenon (flood ejectiles), that results in a physical, material scar. Rather than postulating that He made something look...

That the source for the windows is the fountains. The two water features are presented on par with each other, so to make one a source of the other is not intuitive, and certainly not explicit. Except that 8:2 doesn't allow for a continuation of the fountains AFTER the rain stopped. Remember...

That was one of the theories for where dinosaur bones came from--except they said Satan planted them. Suggesting that the "fossils" of stars are merely illusions or fake remnants is not a helpful position to take, imo.

Without any other commentary as to why you posted it, it appears to be a poor attempt to support the thread title. Is that what you meant to do?

I didn't reply to the whole post, JR, as I wanted to just discuss the canopy for a moment. Your biblical arguments against the canopy, that the "windows of heaven" don't necessitate it, are the same as arguments against the rain coming from the fountains of the great deep--the biblical text has...

Turtles, perhaps, but maybe not Sea Turtles. They could have been lake turtles or river turtles. They might have laid eggs out in the open, if the environment permitted and lack of predators permitted it. God seems to have made creatures that can adaptor to their environs.

There are lots of things not mentioned in scripture that still happened. It could have been. But just because it could have originated with the earth, parts of which you say can be blasted to the far reaches of our solar system, doesnt mean other planeys couldnt experience similar events, maybe...

Are you suggesting that all conversion experiences are to be compared with Saul's? That Jesus appears visibly to everyone who will be redeemed? That Jesus was merely blowing smoke when He said, "blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed"?

With rivers in the garden that flow out to water the whole earth, drowning seems more likely. I.e., even the very good creation you envision had a dangerous side. But Lucifer was supposed to be a protector, a "covering", which likely would have been a good protection against meteorites...

We don't know much of China from scripture, either. No, liquid water in the past, now not visible, but which left telltale markings of something like a global, or at least catastrophic, flood there. But Walt has the same problem if the lunar tides in place at the beginning eventually break up...

Not at all. It's a great way to analyze the data we have. My point was that two comets whose paths converge at a date near the flood is pretty good, but could be coincidental. Three or four that converge at the same time would be monumental.

I made up most of the asteroid belt one, but why not? If it's possible for the earth to do it, why not some other planet?

There are other viable sources of water, too. Mars once had enough surface water to have a global flood. Some have suggested the reason Mars is named after a god of war is because it used to precess in its orbit in a way that it came close to the earth on occasion, so it could have collided...