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Thank God for that...eh? Plus, He has provided the ways and means of living without committing any more sin ! Rebirth from God's seed after the destruction of the old man ! The gift of the Holy Ghost ! Promised escapes from every temptation ! Pastors and teachers for our continued growth in...

Adam was the first daddy. (Gen 4:1)

Thanks for the clarification, and I agree with you. But back to my question..."Do you think anyone who believes in OSAS will refuse the mark of the beast during the tribulation?

Run to the pool !

Where are you? Here in Az it has been the coolest late-spring in many years. We are just now starting to have 100 degree days back-to-back. I have used my A.C. just one day. 🥳

Can you reword or rephrase that please? I don't get what you mean by "OSAS is not the modus operandi of the tribulation." How does the tribulation have an operandi?

Your belief doesn't mirror Russian history. If Ukraine falls, Putin will try wresting back all the lands freed from Russian dominion since the end of the Soviet imperialism. Who would stop him?

I can't agree with your take on 2 Thes 2:7-12. You are equating your own power with the power of God. It is the believers in God who will refuse the mark, and they are written of in Rev 6:9-11. The fifth seal was opened and God says still more will be slain for their testimony.

Jews who believe in what Jesus accomplished while He was here on earth? They would be called Christians by religion. Only Jewish by nationality. Thanks, professor.. Religions. Sects. Adherents to one philosophy or another. How many sects did Jesus found?

Christians neither run for or are elected to offices of the US government. Hypothetical situations don't apply to real life in Christ Jesus. If you wonder why I am not concerned with the things of this world, it may be because I am no longer of this world. You can make the same claim, if you...

What is the question? If Judas had resisted the temptation, there would have been nothing to forgive.

Stretching now, are we? Men were to be water baptized in the name-using the name-of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins. (Acts 2:38, 22:16) The baptism of the Holy Ghost came after immersion in water, using the Lord's name, for the remission of past sins. Paul or his companions water...

I will, if you will remember the rest of that post you cite. Rom 6:7, for one..."For he that is dead is freed from sin."

Who is it than that will refuse the mark? The unconverted? That begs the question...how many faiths did Jesus found?

Warring to regather the old USSR.

None of it matters. Men simply depended on their own strength in those, and in all wars. Had they trusted and relied on God instead, how many may not have died? Unconverted men don't trust God.

Do you think anyone who believes in OSAS will refuse the mark? If, as they suppose, their actions while on earth won't count against them, why refuse? Another point that can be made from this is that if any refuse, the church is still on earth. That wrecks the pre-trib' rapture inanity too.

As all wars, and all who fight them are of the devil, it really doesn't matter who wins. God will protect His children, while all around them crumble. Do you really think Putin will stop at Ukraine if Ukraine falls? I don't.

Welcome to the site. Good post.

Ho-hum...more Russian propaganda? Got to keep those allied with Ukraine from agreeing on things, you know.