You don't understand the Bible.
Saying it doesn't make it so.
If you can do something other than just declare your doctrine to be true and call me idiotic names, like make a real argument then I'd enjoy the exchange but this is boring.
I am worshiping the God of the bible.
You believe that but cannot prove it because it isn't actually the case.
You are changing the nature of the god of the Bible into what you want it to be, Without any scriptural proof.
I have shown you the biblical proof. I have quoted it directly.
Here's the problem you are faced with. If your understanding of God is correct then the bible is self-contradictory but you claim that your understanding of God comes from the bible which directly undermines your understanding of God. You are literally eating the cake you're trying to keep.
I can use the Bible to back up my arguments.
You cited a single proof-text. I responded with a reasonable grammatical explanation showing that ‘all’ does not usually mean ‘every single one’, which is an explanation fully consistent with well-established hermeneutical principles used by theologians throughout history, including your own favorite teacher. Instead of engaging with that, you replied with hostility and name-calling.
You obviously can't. Not a single verse to prove that God doesn't know all things.
I QUOTED SEVERAL!!! What are you even talking about!!!
Verses Showing God Testing or Seeking to Know:
Genesis 22:12 – After Abraham’s willingness to sacrifice Isaac, God says, “Now I know that you fear God, since you have not withheld your son, your only son, from Me.”
Deuteronomy 8:2 – God says He tested Israel “to know what was in your heart, whether you would keep His commandments or not.”
Exodus 16:4 – God gives manna “that I may test them, whether they will walk in My law or not.”
Verses Showing God Changing His Mind / Repenting: (There can't be ever any reason to change your mind if you know every single thing.)
Genesis 6:6 – “And the Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart.”
I Samuel 15:11 – “I greatly regret that I have set up Saul as king.”
Exodus 32:14 – After Moses intercedes, “So the Lord relented from the harm which He said He would do to His people.”
Jonah 3:10 – “Then God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented from the disaster that He had said He would bring upon them, and He did not do it.” (This verse is effectively the main point of the entire book of Jonah.)
Verses Where God Asks Questions / Seeks Information: (These could be rhetorical questions that God asks but that doesn't mean these are at least evidence for my position. Since you're here making false claims about there being "not one single verse", I'm pulling out the stops.
Genesis 3:9, 11, 13 – God asks Adam and Eve, “Where are you? … Who told you that you were naked? … What is this you have done?”
Genesis 4:9–10 – God asks Cain, “Where is Abel your brother?” and “What have you done?”
Verses Where God Doesn't Get What He Desires or Expects
Isaiah 5:4 – God laments, “What more could have been done to My vineyard that I have not done in it? Why then, when I expected it to bring forth good grapes, did it bring forth wild grapes?” (The whole chapter is about this specific topic.)
Luke 7:29–30 “And when all the people heard Him, even the tax collectors justified God, having been baptized with the baptism of John. But the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the will of God for themselves, not having been baptized by him.”
Verses Showing God’s Knowledge Is Conditional / Open:
Jeremiah 18:7–10 – God describes His dealings with nations as conditional: if they repent, He will repent; if they do evil, He will reconsider the good He intended.
Exodus 33:5 – God says, “I could come up into your midst in one moment and consume you. Now therefore, take off your ornaments, that I may know what to do to you.”
If you're thinking that this is an exhaustive list, your sadly mistaken. The whole bible if full of this sort of thing. All it takes to see it, is to remove your Classical (Greek philosophy) colored glasses off and start thinking about God in terms of Him being a real person.
1 John 3:20 KJV
[20] For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things
Once again, this is a generalization. Taken in a woodenly literal way, however, it is an overstatement. The bible is clear that there are things that God does not know. There are things that He chooses not to know (like the specifics of what was going on in Sodom and Gomorrah) and there are things that God cannot know (like whether Israel, on the whole, would respond to Him in faith).
Incidentally, expecting something is not the sort of "knowing" that I'm talking about here. Jesus, for example, knew Peter well enough to predict his denials but Peter could have repented and Jesus would have been both elated and astonished at the strength of his faith.
Don't act like a religious, cocky jerk and I won't treat you like one.
You read things into my comments that are not there. Trust me, if you're getting attitude from me, you'll know it. If there is any shadow of doubt about it at all, it doesn't exist.
You have knowledge but no wisdom.
Yeah, like I give a damn about your opinions of my mental state. You're an unstable man-child who reacts emotionally rather than responds rationally. It's like debating with a teenage girl.
I don't respect your opinion on Scripture because you don't believe the obvious.
If it's so obvious then make an argument. An ACTUAL argument - not a proclamation of something you claim to be "obvious".
You have no Scripture to prove your point, just denial.
You are a liar. Yes, I meant that literally. You are, in fact, a liar.
How is it possible for people to act like the thread they are posting in isn't still here?
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And now, in this post, I basically buried you in an avalanche of passages, some of which are whole chapters, others of which are entire books of the bible and ALL of which you are almost certainly going to ignore.
So, basically every post I've made of any length on this whole thread has cited scripture, most of which quoted them directly, not to mention all the posts by RightDivider which cite several of the same texts, which you routinely ignore and are now trying to pretend don't exist.
There's no way you forgot. You knew when you wrote this stupidity that it was a lie. Who is it that you're trying to fool here, anyway?
