Why Did God create the being who He knew would become Satan?

[ttruscott]

You are merely pushing the problem back, making the more important thing the immaterial person, which removes the need for the bodily sacrifice of Christ and the physical resurrection of Christ.

I don't understand you...

The immaterial person is more important than what??

HOW does becoming an elect or a sinner by our free will before the creation of the physical universe remove the need for the bodily sacrifice of Christ and the physical resurrection of Christ??? It just does not!!

An elect sinner once he is sown (not created) into manind still has to go thru the process of salvation which is totally based upon Christ's bodily death and resurrection!!! And a sinner who was not elect because he rebuked Christ as a liar and false god and refused to allow Him to interfere with his free will decisions would then be eternally stuck in the grip of his sinful delusions...even after seeing the truth of YHWH's Divinity and eternal power by witnessing the creation of the physical universe did not bring the reprobate back from their delusions because they loved sin more:

Rom 1:18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness. 19For what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.
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24Therefore God gave them over in the desires of their hearts to impurity for the dishonoring of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is forever worthy of praise! Amen.

 

[Derf]

I don't understand you...

The immaterial person is more important than what??

HOW does becoming an elect or a sinner by our free will before the creation of the physical universe remove the need for the bodily sacrifice of Christ and the physical resurrection of Christ??? It just does not!!

An elect sinner once he is sown (not created) into manind still has to go thru the process of salvation which is totally based upon Christ's bodily death and resurrection!!!

Why? How does Christ's bodily death and resurrection fix a problem caused by a person who sinned BEFORE he had a body?this seems like a big disconnection in your view?

And a sinner who was not elect because he rebuked Christ as a liar and false god and refused to allow Him to interfere with his free will decisions would then be eternally stuck in the grip of his sinful delusions...even after seeing the truth of YHWH's Divinity and eternal power by witnessing the creation of the physical universe did not bring the reprobate back from their delusions because they loved sin more:

Right--they loved the sin they committed before they had a body, so the solution shouldn't require a body.

 

[ttruscott]

Why? How does Christ's bodily death and resurrection fix a problem caused by a person who sinned BEFORE he had a body?this seems like a big disconnection in your view?

The person is the spirit / soul - not their body! Some people who die go back / return to Sheol from whence they came: Ps 9:17 The wicked will return to Sheol— Berean Standard Bible or do you think they go bodily back to Sheol?

?Right--they loved the sin they committed before they had a body, so the solution shouldn't require a body.

Who says? For what reason? What then should the solution require??? Come on, don't hold back...

The wages of sin is death - but spirits don't die, not even in hell!! Physical death as not the price of sin or hell is meaningless. Every sinner is sown into mankind, Rev. 12:4-9, so every sinner has a body, Matt 13:36-39, so therefore the elect pre-human sinners are easily covered by the physical death and resurrection of our Lord.

If physicality is meaningful to the consequence of sin why would sinning in the spirit suddenly be so meaningless as to denigrate the meaning of the physical death and resurrection of our Christ?

If the angels are acceptable to GOD as to the elect, 1 Timothy 5:21, and holy, Mark 8:38, why was the physical universe created at all??? Why not go straight to the heavenly marriage? I don't know how physicality enhanced our redemption and sanctification but your objection adds nothing for my faith to coinsider.

For instance, I don't know why the animals were considered less sinful than the serpent in the garden nor how they can be judged for sin with the rest of the world before the flood but these somewhat obscure things have no more to do with PCE theology than your rather sophist style of creating questions bogus to the topic as if they were meaningful...