Can a Christian lose their salvation

Hoping

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Aha! No one has ever been saved, and no one will ever be saved until @Hoping finds their name in God's book. Got it.
I am only hoping my name is in the book of life.
Until I see it is, my fate is unknown.
It is written..."Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall." (1 Cor 10:12)
Falling is always an option for the holy.
 

Hoping

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You've been neglecting the hungry and the orphaned every second you've been spending here writing your posts, hypocrite.
Were there any hungry or orphaned here, I would do what I could for them.
How about you ?
Wouldn't you help the hungry or orphaned ?
 

7djengo7

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Were there any hungry or orphaned here, I would do what I could for them.
That non-answer is the same stupidity as "Who is my neighbor?" (Luke 10:29)

Why are you not where the hungry and orphaned are, doing what you can for them? Instead of doing what you can for them, you are spending your time writing your pathetic posts, displaying your retarded heresy and your self-righteous hypocrisy, sinner.
 

7djengo7

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I am only hoping my name is in the book of life.
Until I see it is, my fate is unknown.
It is written..."Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall." (1 Cor 10:12)
Falling is always an option for the holy.
Falling from what? From a state of being saved? You say you are not saved, so why do you let on as though you are worried about falling from a state you say you are not even in?
 

7djengo7

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It is one who has repented of sin and been baptized into Christ and into His death and burial.
It is one what? A murderer? Is this what you're saying: "[An ex-murderer] is [a murderer] who has repented of sin and been baptized into Christ and into His death and burial"?
@Hoping: <NO ANSWER>
I answered in post #80.
False. Think about it, liar: how can you have answered in post #80 a question I had not asked you until post #84? You can't have, and you did not answer it. Especially since my question in post #84 is a question about your raving in post #80!
 

steko

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I am only hoping my name is in the book of life.
Until I see it is, my fate is unknown.
It is written..."Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall." (1 Cor 10:12)
Falling is always an option for the holy.
Salvation is trusting/faithing that Christ paid for all of one's sins by His work on the cross, His death, burial and resurrection plus nothing for one's justification/righteous before GOD.
You have demonstrated again and again that you are in a state of unbelief/non-trusting, which is not salvation and never will be as long as you add to Christ's finished work any meritorious work of your own.
You basically declare that Christ's finished work is not good enough to save you.

1Co 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1Co 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

2Co 5:18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
2Co 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
2Co 5:20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
 

7djengo7

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I am only hoping my name is in the book of life.
Until I see it is, my fate is unknown.
It is written..."Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall." (1 Cor 10:12)
According to you, Paul means "let him that thinketh he [is saved] take heed lest he fall"?
Falling is always an option for the holy.
Your fake category is ridiculous: "the holy unsaved".
 

Hoping

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@Hoping: <NO ANSWER>

False. Think about it, liar: how can you have answered in post #80 a question I had not asked you until post #84? You can't have, and you did not answer it. Especially since my question in post #84 is a question about your raving in post #80!
You should double-check that.
Why you didn't understand my initial answer troubles me.
 

Hoping

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Salvation is trusting/faithing that Christ paid for all of one's sins by His work on the cross, His death, burial and resurrection plus nothing for one's justification/righteous before GOD.
You have demonstrated again and again that you are in a state of unbelief/non-trusting, which is not salvation and never will be as long as you add to Christ's finished work any meritorious work of your own.
You basically declare that Christ's finished work is not good enough to save you.
It is "good enough" to save me.
But it is up to me to follow through with my belief.
I have the choice of rejecting my faith and going back to the dead man I once was, or maintaining my faith with obedience and love until the Lord returns.
1Co 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1Co 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

2Co 5:18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
2Co 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
2Co 5:20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
 

7djengo7

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You should double-check that.
You should stop lying.
As what I am now matters very little, my attention and goals are on the future.
You're a hypocritical, sinful, lying idiot who persistently refuses to try to respond rationally to any of the questions and objections I've leveled against your retarded, Christ-despising, heretical ravings.
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JudgeRightly

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From conversion, belief, sanctity, hope.

Why do you think that someone who has placed their trust would ever stop trusting in God?

What would God have to have done in order to make someone stop trusting in Him?

What would God have to have done for Him to become unworthy of our trust?

How would our (generally speaking, "human's") failing to trust in the trustworthy God (yes, even after we placed our trust in Him) have any bearing on whether He saves them?

God said, "If you believe in Me, I will save you."

He did not say, "If you stop believing in Me, I won't save you anymore."

If God has saved someone, they are saved that moment, UNCONDITIONALLY! They are sealed with the Holy Spirit, BY GOD HIMSELF!

No one can snatch that person out of His hand! (Isaiah 43:13)

It is "good enough" to save me.

You don't even believe that you're saved! You only believe in "conversion."

How can Christ's FINISHED work be "good enough" to save you if you don't believe it has? The answer is that it cannot, because it clearly isn't good enough for you!

It's just more evidence that you are NOT SAVED, and ON YOUR WAY TO HELL strapped to a jet rocket riding on greased lightning!

REPENT! Before it's too late!
 

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God said, "If you believe in Me, I will save you."

He did not say, "If you stop believing in Me, I won't save you anymore."

@Hoping God said, "If you ask Me to save you, I will save you, not because of anything you have done to deserve it, or despite anything you do afterwards, but because I am a merciful God, and am gracious and just to forgive!"
 
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