Fiona Hill: "The president was trying to stage a coup"

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Make America Great Again = make a lot of promises such as "rebuild the nation's infrastructure" but actually do nothing about it.

4-8 years isn't nearly enough time to fix America.

Build Back Better = Inflation Reduction Act, improved health care for veterans, CHIPS and Science Act, American Rescue Plan, Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, strengthen the Affordable Care Act.

Oh great, a bunch of socialist programs...
 

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4-8 years isn't nearly enough time to fix America.
It would have been a start. Unfortunately, Trump never even bothered.

Oh great, a bunch of socialist programs...
They're all programs. Rebuilding infrastructure, which Trump promised back in 2016 but never delivered or even attempted to deliver, would have been a program. But hey, that's cool. Biden's picking up Trump's slack with the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law.
 

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Great, now do the last year Trump was in office.
Meaningless. His total spending is what he spent in 4 years in office. Joe's spending total so far is what the has spent in less than 1/2 a term. And he seems determined to keep increasing his spending. Your propaganda attempts are useless.
 

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It would have been a start. Unfortunately, Trump never even bothered.


They're all programs. Rebuilding infrastructure, which Trump promised back in 2016 but never delivered or even attempted to deliver, would have been a program. But hey, that's cool. Biden's picking up Trump's slack with the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law.
You can't show a single dollar Joe has spent on rebuilding the infrastructure of the US. Oh, he and the media claim he has but none of his spending bills actually include money for our failing infrastructure such as roads and bridges.
 

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It would have been a start.

I'm talking about for EITHER President. For ANY president. For ANY leader of a nation.

Unfortunately, Trump never even bothered.

That tends to happen when a republican candidate has to deal with the previous president's democratic initiatives, especially when he had been in office for the last 8 years....

They're all programs.

Were you trying to say something else here? or am I just not understanding you?

Rebuilding infrastructure, which Trump promised back in 2016 but never delivered or even attempted to deliver, would have been a program.

It takes too long for our government to rollout changes/improvements/upgrades to our infrastructure. That's a result of an inefficient government, though, not a lack of promises.

But hey, that's cool. Biden's picking up Trump's slack with the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law.

What does that bipartisan thing say about roads? Waterways, airwaves, and rails?

Is it about actual infrastructure? or infrastructure of socialist programs?
 

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Of course Trump's candidates would win in Republican primaries, but not in general elections. We've already seen defeats in that arena and we'll see many more come November.
Biden was right. It does not matter who votes. What matters is who counts the votes. In addition, he might also have added the winner will be the one chosen by those who program the voting machines, operate the machines, and prevent anyone from accessing the machines before, during, and after an election.
 

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I'm pretty sure that all of the Oath Keepers, Three Percenters, Proud Boys, QAnoners and other assorted MAGAs were not leftists pulling a false flag event at the Capitol on January 6th, but rather were rightwingers committing political violence at the behest of Trump and his banana republican cohorts.
Nobody has proven democrats did not plan and subtly promote (as Ray Epps did) the violence to prevent the scheduled congressional examination of voter fraud claims scheduled on Jan 6, 2021.
 

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Monkey see, monkey do?
If a monkey sees a monkey smashing a jewelry store window and showcase and stealing jewelry in the name of George Floyd then mobs of other monkeys will do the same with the tacit support of American democrats.
 

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Decreased spending from what it was under Trump.
What liar or idiot told you that? The House spends the money, according to Nancy Pelosi, and she is right.
Decreased spending from what it was under Trump.
Remember when Biden claimed Trump had caused 200 million covid deaths in America? What most Americans do not know is that politicians often spew out phony numbers they simply fabricate from thin air for the purpose of creating respect among the hearers for their policies and qualifications. Lying erases all other qualifications those bozos may possess.

Did Trump spend more money in his first two years than Biden has spent in less than two? Not by a trillion. Did Trump open the US checkbook to wild spending while democrats objected with loud voices? Don't be ridiculous. Have the democrats opened the US checkbook to wild spending as republicans vociferously objected? Absolutely. But, apart from political lies told by lying politicians and their sycophantic media supporters, how much money has been spent and who spent it?

The US financial sector collapsed under Bush in 2008 and Congress authorized massive stimulus spending to try to keep the whole country from collapsing. Stimulus spending drove the US debt to nearly $12 trillion in 2010 from $9 trillion in 2007. Stimulus spending continued well into Obama's first term and by the time Trump took office in 2017 the US debt had grown to around $20 trillion. That means that the money the US government spent from 2010 to 2017 was at least $8 trillion more than it took in in tax revenues.

Under Trump's first three years the U.S. debt rose from around $20 trillion in 2017 to nearly $23 trillion by the end of 2019. Democrats gained control of the U.S. House in 2018 and also controlled several key state government positions when the covid pandemic hit in early 2020. Congress authorized additional government spending in 2020 that was approved by Trump and the debt rose from around $23 trillion in early 2020 to more than $27 trillion by early 2021, a $6 trillion panic-driven spending spree boosted by democrat- promoted and democrat-enforced shutdowns and lockdowns. 18 months into Biden's term the debt has now risen from under $28 trillion to just under $31 trillion.

What are we seeing with these facts? That democrats capitalize on crises to effect massive increases in government spending. As Rahm Emanuel famously said, "Never let a crisis go to waste." As a corollary to that he could have said if we need an excuse to open the government checkbook then we simply need to create a crisis.

Someone did invent the alleged global warming crisis.
 

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Great, now do the last year Trump was in office.
Democrats controlled the House purse strings during Trump's last year in office. Trump did not authorize spending money, the House had that job. Remember, he was never able to authorize money to be spent on the border wall because the House controlled spending authorizations.
 
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Try looking it up for yourself.

So you don't even know what it's about and can't easily tell me, despite being an avid supporter of it? Or you do know and because my prediction was accurate, despite me having never read it, you would rather be petty about it and tell me to read it instead of telling me yourself, despite you being such a staunch proponent of it?
 

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So you don't even know what it's about and can't easily tell me, despite being an avid supporter of it? Or you do know and because my prediction was accurate, despite me having never read it, you would rather be petty about it and tell me to read it instead of telling me yourself, despite you being such a staunch proponent of it?
Typical. Rather than admit he is woefully ignorant of what his buddies in government are really doing he runs and hides behind a screen of lies that are transparent in their stupidity. He knows you know he's lying but isn't going to stop.
 

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So you don't even know what it's about and can't easily tell me, despite being an avid supporter of it? Or you do know and because my prediction was accurate, despite me having never read it, you would rather be petty about it and tell me to read it instead of telling me yourself, despite you being such a staunch proponent of it?
I can see you haven't bothered to lift a finger to find out what it is for yourself when it literally is just about that easy.
 

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I can see you haven't bothered to lift a finger to find out what it is for yourself when it literally is just about that easy.

I can see you aren't going to bother to lift a finger to just tell me what it is that you support in any level of detail. You'd rather hide behind a bill that likely has nothing to do with what it actually implies.

It's literally just about that easy.
 

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Nobody has proven democrats did not plan and subtly promote (as Ray Epps did) the violence to prevent the scheduled congressional examination of voter fraud claims scheduled on Jan 6, 2021.
Did Elmer Stuart Rhodes plan and subtly promote (as Ray Epps did) the violence to prevent the scheduled congressional examination of voter fraud claims scheduled on Jan 6, 2021?
 

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Case in point.
What's your take on Mike Lindell? Do you think he is an FBI plant made to make Trumplicans look like dufuses? Do you think he is out of his mind crazy? Do you think he's well-intentioned but sadly confused? Something else? What?
 
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