masks work .. to infect you :(

[ok doser]

anecdotal evidence that in a hospital situation a properly fitted N95 mask works

that said Sweden did just as well well without all these stupid npi's

Listened to that one on my walk just now - I recommend

 

[marke]

we knew cloth masks work to infect you
but tried it on a global scale

A cluster randomised trial of cloth masks compared with medical masks in healthcare workers | BMJ Open

bmjopen.bmj.com

Results The rates of all infection outcomes were highest in the cloth mask arm, with the rate of ILI statistically significantly higher in the cloth mask arm (relative risk (RR)=13.00, 95% CI 1.69 to 100.07) compared with the medical mask arm. Cloth masks also had significantly higher rates of ILI compared with the control arm. An analysis by mask use showed ILI (RR=6.64, 95% CI 1.45 to 28.65) and laboratory-confirmed virus (RR=1.72, 95% CI 1.01 to 2.94) were significantly higher in the cloth masks group compared with the medical masks group. Penetration of cloth masks by particles was almost 97% and medical masks 44%.
Conclusions This study is the first RCT of cloth masks, and the results caution against the use of cloth masks. This is an important finding to inform occupational health and safety. Moisture retention, reuse of cloth masks and poor filtration may result in increased risk of infection. Further research is needed to inform the widespread use of cloth masks globally. However, as a precautionary measure, cloth masks should not be recommended for HCWs, particularly in high-risk situations, and guidelines need to be updated.

Biden said just follow Fauci's advice, that is what he does. Well, that is the problem. Depending on any number of a varying assortment of scientific factors that day, Fauci has advocated wearing no masks, wearing masks, wearing two masks, or wearing multiple masks. I don't truth pompous quacks who obviously have a much higher opinion of themselves than do real doctors.

 

[way 2 go]

Biden said just follow Fauci's advice, that is what he does. Well, that is the problem. Depending on any number of a varying assortment of scientific factors that day, Fauci has advocated wearing no masks, wearing masks, wearing two masks, or wearing multiple masks. I don't truth pompous quacks who obviously have a much higher opinion of themselves than do real doctors.

okdoser just pointed out 6' just became 3' ,thanks fauci

 

[JudgeRightly]

Oh, well, things change JR,

The fact that masks do not protect the user or people around the user from viruses has not changed, despite what the CDC says/has said.

especially with the likes of a global pandemic and a new virus that caused such constraints to be put in place in order to curb the flow, which have been shown to work.

Lockdowns don't work.
Masks don't work.
Shutting down an entire economy kills people.
Social distancing is inadequate.

Proper quarantine procedures and allowing people who are not sick to work would have sufficed.

I have no guilt about following safety protocols so no guilt here. You just carry on with "We are Paul Revere" and the like.

We all know you wear a tin foi- sorry, a mask.

 

[Arthur Brain]

The fact that masks do not protect the user or people around the user from viruses has not changed, despite what the CDC says/has said.



Lockdowns don't work.
Masks don't work.
Shutting down an entire economy kills people.
Social distancing is inadequate.

Proper quarantine procedures and allowing people who are not sick to work would have sufficed.



We all know you wear a tin foi- sorry, a mask.

Because you're a scientific expert where it comes to pandemics and effective measures to curtail the spread?

Nope.

Go follow some more rubbish like "We Are Paul Revere" JR.

 

[JudgeRightly]

Because you're a scientific expert where it comes to pandemics and effective measures to curtail the spread?

No, because the facts show what I said to be true.

 

[Arthur Brain]

No, because the facts show what I said to be true.

Alert the CDC, I'm sure they'd love to hear from you.

 

[Right Divider]

No, because the facts show what I said to be true.

Don't forget... with AB it's all about who says it... and only if he likes what they say.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Don't forget... with AB it's all about who says it... and only if he likes what they say.

And yet another irony meter goes into the clouds...

 

[JudgeRightly]

Alert the CDC, I'm sure they'd love to hear from you.

If the CDC listened to anyone, they wouldn't have given the advice they've given.

Little ol' me won't change them, unfortunately.

Why are you giving bad advice?

 

[Arthur Brain]

If the CDC listened to anyone, they wouldn't have given the advice they've given.

Little ol' me won't change them, unfortunately.

Why are you giving bad advice?

Um, yeah, cos the CDC works on listening to opinion as oppose to accumulating and extrapolating data and formulating guidance on the results that such findings bring about while under continual scrutiny etc.

Good.

I ain't.

 

[JudgeRightly]

Um, yeah, cos the CDC works on listening to opinion

That's all they have, opinions. They don't have facts anymore.

 

[Right Divider]

 

[Arthur Brain]

That's all they have, opinions. They don't have facts anymore.

Because you say so?

 

[ok doser]

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It's almost as if masks don't have any effect at all other than virtue signaling

 

[annabenedetti]

View attachment 675

Again from @ianmSC, credentials unknown.

What good are new case graphs, though? They're completely reliant on testing frequency and availability which varied wildly from state to state. Hospitalizations or deaths would be a more accurate statistic.

 

[JudgeRightly]

Because you say so?

Because the evidence says so.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Because the evidence says so.

Then provide it. Otherwise it is 'just you saying so' and can be dismissed accordingly.

 

[JudgeRightly]

Then provide it. Otherwise it is 'just you saying so' and can be dismissed accordingly.

That's ironic, especially coming from the person who hardly ever provides any evidence of his own.

I think I'll pass this time.

 

[Right Divider]

Again from @ianmSC, credentials unknown.

What good are new case graphs, though? They're completely reliant on testing frequency and availability which varied wildly from state to state. Hospitalizations or deaths would be a more accurate statistic.

Those are all in the SAME state.