God says the wicked profess themselves to be wise, not knowing they are fools.
Capitol Police Warn Of Threat On March 4th
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Arthur Brain
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What do you profess yourself to be?
Arthur Brain
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Total bunk. Trump lost. Conspiracy rubbish will flow for a while yet but eventually will fall down the drain and possibly into a swamp which would be ironic.No judge in the land has examined this evidence and hundreds of others and found it to be false.
The election results in Virginia’s Fairfax County were very suspect late Election Night. There were five ballot drops each with over 300,000 votes for Biden in and out like a yoyo which ended up being 73% of the County’s votes for Biden.
More on Biden's 308,000 Ballot Drop in Fairfax County Virginia on Election Night - This One Ballot Drop Was 73% of Biden Votes in the County -- EXPLAIN THAT! | The Gateway Pundit | by Joe Hoft
The election results in Virginia’s Fairfax County were very suspect late Election Night. There were five ballot drops each with over 300,000 votes for Biden in and out like a yoyo which ended up being 73% of the County’s votes for Biden.www.thegatewaypundit.com
We’ve reported since the election on the unreal results in Virginia on Election night. We uncovered a pattern that occurred in Virginia as well as in other states that we labeled the “Drop and Roll”
When such a system by default is taking money from others to give it to other people who are not deserving of such, it is, by definition, theft.
Because you say so?
Because Paul said if a man does not work, he shall not eat.
There's a huge difference between not being able to work, and not being willing to work.
Neither of which require the government to take from others to give to them.
Because it's taking from other people to give to you. That is, by definition, theft.
What gave you that idea?
Talk about a non-sequitur...
If I were in that position, I'd be asking those around me to help me out. Hopefully, I wouldn't have burned those bridges down previously.
I wouldn't dare ask the government for help.
It's called asking for help from one's neighbors, be it family, friends, or those around him.
Yeah, they are.
My opinion has nothing to do with this.
It's called the Bible. Not "your religious views."
But we all know you hate God and His word.
Of course not. But that doesn't mean I won't promote the Truth.
Hopefully someone close to them, physically or relationally, would step in to provide.
Why do you think that the government should be the answer here?
Supra.
Afforded healthcare? Sure.
Should the government be the one to provide it? NO.
Says the mask-wearer.
Didn't you know? Masks are the new tin foil hats...
Arthur Brain
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You've taken that Paul quote and reduced it to something that wouldn't remotely apply to a myriad settings in the present. In your "utopia", people would starve if they weren't working even if willing and able and those who couldn't would be reliant on family and friends never mind their ability to support them. The homeless, they're just "bums", right?
If you ever find yourself in a position whereby you're out of work or completely down on your luck with no available help from family and friends that you seemingly presume most other people have, then fine. Don't avail yourself of any government aid. Become homeless and retain that supposed pride that elevates you above those who accept it. However, why would you feel any better about taking income off your family and friends anyway?
Frankly, your opinion where it comes to "hating God's word" can just be dismissed for the juvenile bunk that it is. You are on record for promoting the most twisted and vile thing I've ever encountered on here. That being trying children in court as adults and executing them as young as five including stabbing them to death if they've committed a "capitol crime". That is beyond sick. It's no wonder that RD wouldn't address that in another thread and Jefferson felt obliged to state that any form of children being executed in context were adults. You don't get to declare 'truth' of any sort after that.
Yeah, I wear masks. I'm not remotely surprised that you don't and the projection is almost hysterical.
You're certainly welcome to your opinions, but don't be putting words in my mouth.
Nope.
Normal police, normal military.
Eider: Which, if any, sin is NOT evil?
Correct.
You are a deist.
Most Christians who have a proper Biblical worldview are capitalists.
God, for all things belong to Him.
But that doesn't mean that we can't use money as we see fit, because He has given man dominion over the earth.
Of course.
Why does it have to be the government that does so?
Why can't it be the people themselves?
Why? Explain in detail, please.
Yup. But never in the form of government handouts.
Indeed. Or, at the very least, going outside the bounds of their responsibilities.
Yes, both of those are wicked.
Because I have a proper Biblical worldview.
Yes.
In the form of "from my hand to yours" giving.
Not, "from my hand to the government, so they can take a portion, and then give the small amount that remains to everyone else."
No.
No, except as provided directly from the parents.
Of course, they should be provided for by their parents.
Then the father should work, while the mother takes care of the children.
No.
Correct. They should work hard to earn money to provide for themselves and their children.
No, they don't. Such is destructive.
Indeed.
So why are you promoting sin?
No, except directly from their parents, without government intervention.
Jesus was very much a capitalist.
Or have you forgotten what He said... oh wait, that's right, you're a deist, you probably wouldn't have read what He said...
Here it is, for the record:
Is it not lawful for me to do what I wish with my own things? Or is your eye evil because I am good?’ - Matthew 20:15 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+20:15&version=NKJV
Jesus affirmed the law of Moses.
The law of Moses spoke against homosexuality and abortion.
Do you, eider, reject that life begins at conception?
Yet you don't know what He said either, hypocrite.
First remove the plank from your own eye, so that you may see clearly to remove the mote from another's eye.
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It's a Biblical principle.
It's applicable in all situations.
Even before the Fall, Adam had to work to maintain the garden.
After it, God told him that it would be by the sweat of his brow that he would provide for himself and his family.
Hunger is THE strongest motivator for people to provide for themselves, and by doing so, they contribute to society.
If someone is willing and able to work, why do you think they'll starve?
They'll find work to do, because they are willing, and as I stated above, hunger is the strongest motivator to work.
And why is that a bad thing?
The homeless bums are there because of the decisions they've made, for better or for worse.
If they've burned all the bridges to those around them who would have otherwise provided for them in their time of need, that's their own fault, and they're simply facing the consequences of their actions.
Why would I do so to begin with?
Asking for help from family, friends, and neighbors, and them giving it to me, is far different than asking the government to give me someone else's money.
The latter is theft, the former is goodwill.
There you go making it about my opinion again. Again, my opinion has nothing to do with this.
You hate God's word.
That's a fact.
You can deny it all you want, but I'm going to continue pointing it out to you, because it's the truth.
Yawn.
Don't change the subject, Bible-hater.
Just like people wear tin-foil hats.
Why should you be surprised that I don't?
I'm simply being normal.
Says the tin foil ha- sorry, the mask wearer.
annabenedetti
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Are you going to accept the stimulus money coming your way?
You mean taking back the money that I've been forced to give the government over the past several years? Sure.
And yes, I still oppose such a system.
annabenedetti
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Fascinating.
annabenedetti
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Yes, it's fascinating that you'd enjoy the fruits of a system you abhor.
The stimulus? Yes. Of course.
Typical Arthur Brain. Talking about everything BUT the topic of the thread and reverting to ad hominem because he can't win an argument.
Try addressing the topic, once you come back from your ban:
It's a Biblical principle.
It's applicable in all situations.
Even before the Fall, Adam had to work to maintain the garden.
After it, God told him that it would be by the sweat of his brow that he would provide for himself and his family.
Hunger is THE strongest motivator for people to provide for themselves, and by doing so, they contribute to society.
If someone is willing and able to work, why do you think they'll starve?
They'll find work to do, because they are willing, and as I stated above, hunger is the strongest motivator to work.
And why is that a bad thing?
The homeless bums are there because of the decisions they've made, for better or for worse.
If they've burned all the bridges to those around them who would have otherwise provided for them in their time of need, that's their own fault, and they're simply facing the consequences of their actions.
Why would I do so to begin with?
Asking for help from family, friends, and neighbors, and them giving it to me, is far different than asking the government to give me someone else's money.
The latter is theft, the former is goodwill.
There you go making it about my opinion again. Again, my opinion has nothing to do with this.
You hate God's word.
That's a fact.
You can deny it all you want, but I'm going to continue pointing it out to you, because it's the truth.
Just like people wear tin-foil hats.
Why should you be surprised that I don't?
I'm simply being normal.
Says the tin foil ha- sorry, the mask wearer.
And the reason why is explained in the show which I linked above, which you clearly did not listen to.
No, not the stimulus, the system which allows for such.
eider
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I don't know of a military force that does not have its own internal police, called military police.
I don't know of a police force that does not have its own internal police force.
But if you won't have that then you won't.
Sin leads to sickness and death.
There is not one sin which does NOT lead to sickness. All the time that the Israelites kept to the commandments they would flourish, increase, strengthen and thus become invincible. It worked. Evil is sickness.
Deut {7:14} Thou shalt be blessed above all people: there
shall not be male or female barren among you, or among
your cattle. {7:15} And the LORD will take away from thee
all sickness, and will put none of the evil diseases of Egypt,
which thou knowest, upon thee; but will lay them upon all
[them] that hate thee.
Or:-
Deut {28:58} If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this law that are written in this book, that thou mayest fear this
glorious and fearful name, THE LORD THY GOD; {28:59}
Then the LORD will make thy plagues wonderful, and the
plagues of thy seed, [even] great plagues, and of long
continuance, and sore sicknesses, and of long continuance.
{28:60} Moreover he will bring upon thee all the diseases
of Egypt, which thou wast afraid of; and they shall cleave
unto thee. {28:61} Also every sickness, and every plague,
which [is] not written in the book of this law, them will the
LORD bring upon thee, until thou be destroyed. {28:62}
And ye shall be left few in number, whereas ye were as the
stars of heaven for multitude; because thou wouldest not
obey the voice of the LORD thy God.
Or:-
James {1:14} But every man is tempted, when he is
drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. {1:15} Then when
lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is
finished, bringeth forth death. {1:16} Do not err, my
beloved brethren.
Financially speaking, everyone for themselves?
OK....... if you say so.
It is a Command....... that is a law.
Not charity, but law. Hence taxation for such provision for all.
One quotation from many:-
Leviticus {15:11} For the poor shall never cease out of the land: therefore I command thee, saying, Thou shalt open thine hand wide unto thy brother, to thy poor, and to thy needy, in thy land.
People do want to have jobs, but where disability, sickness and redundancy exist then they can't, and their children need provision. It's pro-life, no?
Showing one of 14 such commands:-
Deut:{10:18} He doth execute the judgment of the fatherless and widow, and loveth the stranger, in giving him food and raiment. {10:19} Love ye therefore the stranger: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.
Because I believe that some actions are no longer leading to sickness.
Do you obey ALL the laws of Moses? (less the sacrificial/ceremonial ones)
I don't think so.
Jesus was for all people, not just for himself.
Do you follow all the laws of Moses?
I hate the idea of abortion, we gave up a great deal for our third child, but in some situations I wouldn't challenge abortions before !2 weeks.
That's what I believe.
Nice.
annabenedetti
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I clearly had no intention of listening to it when you could've explained for yourself why you have no problem accepting government money.
Of course.
Yes, that's part of a normal police force and part of a normal military force, at least in today's militaries.
You seemed to be making a different argument however, not related to such groups, which has caused me to wonder why you would bring such a point up...
Thinking about it for a moment, such a group within the military and police forces would not be needed, since in my ideal system, there's always a higher earthly authority (except above the the King, who's authority is below God's). Recursion isn't the answer to justice.
Was there a point you were trying to make?
Indeed. But that's not what I asked, now was it?
Please answer the question I asked:
Which sin, if any, is NOT evil?
Again:
Which sin, if any, is NOT evil?
What's your point?
To do what, eider, to have the government take my money so that they can, after taking a cut, spread the money to everyone else?
Or to give from my hand to yours willingly?
Which is it?
Correct. You cannot compel charity, especially through a law.
Perhaps you could point out where it says that taxation should fund such efforts?
Because I'm not seeing it.
Again, where does it say that the government should be the one you open your hand to?
I see:
- To your brother
- To the poor
- To the needy
I don't see:
- To the government
- To the people in other lands
So they ask for help from family, friends, neighbors.
No need for the government to get involved.
Don't forget that people have a right to fail, too.
Harming people with love is also possible, eider.
I'm going to sound like a broken record here but, where does it say that the government has to be involved in the process?
You're certainly free to believe all the weird things you want.
That doesn't make those beliefs correct though.
Nope.
Ignoring what Jesus said isn't helping your argument, eider.
Jesus said:
Is it not lawful for me to do what I wish with my own things? Or is your eye evil because I am good?’ - Matthew 20:15 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+20:15&version=NKJV
Supra.
You didn't answer the question, eider.
Please answer the question:
Do you, eider, reject that life begins at conception?
eider
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So you do agree.....
Oh Wait! So you've changed your mind.
Your ideal Police Force and Military would have no internal scrutiny, your military no Inspector General..
OK..... whatever you think
eider
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Evil is simply the opposite of good, imo.
So, whilst all breaches of Moses laws can be described as evil (not good), something which you don't worry about in many of those, ALL the laws if broken can lead to weakness, sickness, loss of security, etc.
Again:
Evil is simply the opposite of good, imo.
So, whilst all breaches of Moses laws can be described as evil (not good), something which you say you don't worry about in many of those, ALL the laws if broken can lead to weakness, sickness, loss of security, etc.
You read the verses........ don't question me, question them....
A Commandment from your God is a Law.
So care for all was the law for Israel, if not for your Church.
Strangers are covered many many times in the poor laws.
But your God commanded that the community support all in the community, so that's what the law was....... The poor, strangers, widows, the sick...... all needed community support.
I don't see too much risk of that in your ideal world.
Yep..... that's a broken record, all right.
Mirror!
Jesus was giving! Not holding back!
I have often quoted Jesus to little avail, it seems.
Mark {10:21} Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me. {10:22} And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions. {10:23} And Jesus looked round about, and saith unto his disciples, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! {10:24} And the disciples were astonished at his words. But Jesus answereth again, and saith unto them, Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God! {10:25} It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
No. But where I live we allow women to choose whether to carry pregnancy or not...... I think the time limit is about 24 weeks. I think 12 weeks might be better.
But you don't appear to support babies after birth, certainly not in food, clothes, healthcare, warmth....... How many children die from starvation in your land? You seem to make demands of women, then leave the very poor ones high and dry.
eider
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You mentioned 'bans'.
Did you know that when a member is banned he/she cannot open the message box to read the banning message? Thus one has no idea about how long the ban might last for. ??
Just a point for the governors to think over.