Who is the Remnant Church?
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oh boy...now what?
Adam and Eve were saved when skins were provided but were still kicked out...still died...
Heb 11 continues a list of those who believed but did not receive the promise...what was the promise Him or His gift of eternal life?
How confusing do you need to make this? Too much study has made you MAD...LOL
right and at that time it is ACTUALLY GIVEN for ALL on condition...same as it was for Adamic Abrahamic Noah David covenants...and what? Was this not promised since Adam? And yet NOT RECEIVED? Again Heb 11...
yes...provided since Adam but now with His resurrection made sure by His resurrection a quarantee upon pick up...for ALL whosoever believes...
but STILL Paul writes of Sabbaths these ARE shadows and point to good things to come...as you said it was only provided at His resurrection...but at His coming is when ACTUALLY it is received...
But you divide first His kingdom and now here are trying to divide things not to be separated....at least you are consistent LOL
We who believe are saved are being saved and will receive that salvation at His coming...on condition we stay faithful...
cheeky...nice
yes but if you overcome and remain faithful and to the end or the last trump...it is provided...made sure at the resurrection...
but they ARE SAVED...you’re trying to muddy it all up claiming two differing receptions of that which scripture says is the same thing at the same time...
Israel this ekklesia in the OT wilderness was ALSO saved from Egypt and yet had to walk to the promised land...we too receive salvation and must overcome until the end...
right we are IN ROUTE to the promised land...ya dig?
The New Earth is part of the promise yes? Is what Isaiah is referencing in chapter 66:22-23 and well ALL flesh at that time will worship at New Moons and Sabbaths...so you in or “NOT FOR ME”?
suite yourself...Isaiah was NOT lying...your MADness is added and attempted
Oh and no one is eating unclean meat at this promised time...neat eh?
yes yes...He was at Sinai but NOT their Leader...LOL He followed Moses?
LOL there it is again...”BEING SAVED” but you claim ”but under the "covenant of grace" given to Paul, salvation was provided at Christ's resurrection”...but it is still dependent on you being faithful and His actual return...
hmmm...and as this refreshed feeling goes away do you refuse to sell them another? LOL
Maybe you sold a lemonade SO BIG it lasts all day? IF YOU DRINK IT...that is what He did...free refills...on condition...
Or did you sell MAGIC ONE TIME ONLY REFRESHMENT FOREVER drink...unless you eat sand or otherwise defile your magic refreshment...that TOO is what He did...free refills on condition...
instead of horrible analogies with poor entrepreneurship why not use biblical examples of being refreshed...You know as when the Creator worked six days and rested the seventh day and was refreshed...and then well six more days of work and then another day of refreshment...this before the fall even...
really? Ok see you are revealing how this MADness is built...all the various parts necessary...
so once saved always saved eh?
Yet another thread needed...but this MADness is on the tail end of MUCH deception over centuries of development...
Even Paul warned the branches grafted in NOT TO BOAST lest they be cut off themselves...seems right there you would understand what this ekklesia learned in the OT wilderness...once saved does NOT mean you are
Even those crying “LORD LORD did we not?” Got a surprise yes?
But like I said another long thread needed...
LOL... a saving that has been completed would be “are saved” Paul knew what he meant and the Greek to say it...
“IF you hold fast”...so DID THEY? You did note the condition yes? Biggest little word there that IF...
By which indeed we are saved...if...unless believed in vain...you know believing but NOT OBEYING...that is belief in vain...faith without works...dead
nope...much in vain here
LOL...
NOT a command to remain faithful...oh my...
so they could keep sinning? Or once saved...taking the life of another is no longer a sin? Or taking stuff from someone else is NOT stealing?
Good grief...Peter and Paul suggesting to maybe stay faithful...if you want...or not...LOL
Certainly not! But copy me as I copy Christ...establish the Law...watch out for wolves and false teachers...
So hmmm...a house divided DOES stand? At least your MADness is consistant...not “I am the Path” but many paths and ways...choose whatever whenever...
Your MADness claims we CAN continue to sin that grace may abound...
You are NOT slaves to Yah His righteousness but being faithful is optional...if at all...as ”NOT FOR ME”
of course you miss it...the council met to decide what to expect from the gentiles for them to come into their fellowship and Peter says Jews are saved as gentiles are...by Faith...
Acts 13:44...oh btw Paul’s letters were to synagogues with attending gentiles...
LOL...
“Same manner” vs “just as”...let the MAD games continue...LOL
further back than that...I mean this ekklesia in the OT wilderness was already full of those NOT OF JACOB who were saved...and by FAITH...just left their Egyptian homes families and friends and followed a New God into the desert...
Yahushua had 4 in His ancestors alone...who by FAITH made His Father their God His people their own...
also read Heb 11 about Abel and Noah and Enoch and Abraham all SAVED the SAME WAY...JUST AS...sorry...in the same manner
By faith...
phew...good...thanks for NOT separating what Yah has joined...
ummm the Jews or whoever?
yes yes...the Sabbath makes you MAD and you claim “NOT FOR ME” got it...long time ago...learned if from that other guy who fell from heaven who also believes but does NOT obey...like you claims His ways are “NOT FOR ME”
Ok...like I said surprised you address me at all...
Understood...lol...still responding to yours...
safe travels...good home coming...
sure...and as Paul says here he delights in the Law as it is spiritual holy just and good...and is grateful with his mind he is keeping it...though warring with his flesh...nothing about another gospel another way...
not so fast...I have that believing gentiles are copying Paul as he copied Christ...JUST AS
Sabbath...festivals...diet...letting NO ONE but the BOC judge their doing so...again why would other gentiles judge their NOT keeping New Moons? They have their own calendar makes only sense...now why would they start keeping the “Jewish” one? That would make them judge like you and others here...
yours is the burden of proof and an argument from silence...
Acts 16 is AFTER Acts 15 and 9 and Romans are still upset that Paul is teaching them customs NOT lawful for Romans to observe verse 21...you think that is “do whatever?” Or were Romans MAD like you at Sabbath festivals and diets...you know “NOT FOR ME” as too JEWISH...LOL
Again at Paul’s trial NOTHING proved he changed anything...no letters presented...no witnesses claiming he taught as even Stephen was accused with false witnesses “Jesus changed the customs Moses delivered”...NOTHING
Paul even taught Felix righteousness self control and coming judgement Acts 24:25...and Felix like you and yours was also frightened...and wished “NOT FOR ME”...maybe later...
you really think Paul was teaching “anything goes...all grace”
BOTH...LOL...and because the Spirit led them into LOVING AS HE LOVED and JUST AS...and thus fulfilling the law...no record of their love including Sunday Ham dinners after fellowship...LOL
Acts 15:24 right? LOL already addressed as king Jimmy adding to the Word...but yes at this time you have not responded
king Jimmy was right to insert circumcision as it NEVER WAS TAUGHT IT SAVED...
but Jimmy was wrong to insert “keep the Law” because...even in the OT wilderness strangers within thy gates received the Sabbath...and the rest...of the Law...the rest of the Law of rest...lol
NOPE as you can NOT make a swine clean by draining it of its blood...Acts 15 was clear these things were already expected of those within thy gates...and on Sabbaths was when Moses will STILL be taught James concluded Acts 15:21
not to circumcize but yet he did Timothy...then said circumcision or NOT is not the issue but it was OBEDIENCE...to what? to Him His ways or?
well...yes that is exactly what Yahushua taught...His “follow Me”..."keep my commandments"... but you insist to misrepresent Him and claim ability to produce olives from fig branches...
yes...a group of people...also known as a body or assembly or congregation or church or multitude or...
a group of people called by His Name...a group of people with Him as their leader...I stand with Stephen who claimed it was He who was with THIS ekklesia in the OT wilderness...and He did NOT follow them...they were NOT His head...LOL
exactly...but it is you yours that wish to contain the New Covenant to ONLY JEWS...but since the beginning it was meant for ALL...despite what Jews want you to think...LOL
Peter warned Paul's writings would be...and well...
no...I had looked up some MAD website to better understand what I am dealing with here and they used that...
but Yours is a good verse Thanks...which shows there indeed is a doctrine and manner of life...not just grace...
Oh and Perseverance...hmmm why? if once saved always saved?
a MAD website if I recall...something about prophecy interrupted program for Israel put on hold...yada yada yada
the person Yahushua His Name and Life the TELOS the aim purpose reason for the OT...that is the revelation of a mystery nothing else...
not salvation apart from works...that was ALWAYS taught...Heb 11
your Jesuit Darby Scofield Zionism is a new program indeed...I am still unpacking this "mystery"
and this new covenant is just like the OLD...same law
And also ALREADY with those NOT OF JACOB...just as this new one is now...as whosoever believes shall not perish...both since Abel Andy By faith Heb 11
you make the covenant one of genes and DNA when Israel was NEVER but by DIVINE INTERVENTION only...
right some MAD website was using it as a NEW way to heaven or something
your claim Paul is the first member of this NEW PROGRAM...yet he kept Sabbaths...festivals...”copy me AS I copy Christ"...or did he lie?
Paul told the gentiles in Acts 13 to come back NEXT SABBATH nothing about next day Sunday or mid week services on Mars Hill...and next week they were there
tarried to keep Passover Acts 20:6 hurried to keep Pentecost 20:16 instructed gentile Corinthians to keep the feast with unleavened bread of spirit and truth 1 Cor 5:7-8
you really think he could claim innocence at ALL his trials if he DID NOT worship in accordance to the Law? or taught others to NOT do so? They could have used his letters as evidence if INDEED he taught SABBATH was done away with etc...but NOTHING
Paul was there for the Acts 15 council...said NOTHING when instructions were concluded to make sure gentiles knew NOT to offer clean meats to idols...and to make sure CLEAN meats were drained of blood and NOT strangled...
imagine gentiles bringing swine into synagogue potluck after hearing Moses taught every Sabbath..."but but but it was NOT offered to Zeus...and I drained all its blood..." LOL...how rude do you think these cosmopolitan cultured Greeks are? They WANTED to "follow Me"... UNLIKE you and yours Who claim His ways are "NOT FOR ME"
Acts 24:14 "I do confess to you, however, that I worship the God of our fathers according to the Way, which they call a sect. I believe everything that is laid down by the Law and written in the Prophets"
impossible for Paul to claim that if he taught the Law abolished or even not for gentiles...
nobody countered his claim and no evidence was brought that he did NOT follow the Law...or teach others not to
Acts 21:20 And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law:"
myriads are the thousands...tens of thousands
yes ODD that the Acts 15 council is unaware of this NEW PROGRAM its MADness but ruled that believers actually "follow Me"
ummm...Paul was there and said NOTHING to DISPUTE that gentiles were to KEEP hearing Moses every Sabbath and NOT bring HAM dinners for after hearing Moses every Sabbath fellowship
yes thank you...oh you mean to state AGAIN that James concluded Moses would CONTINUE to be read in every city on every Sabbath in the synagogues these gentiles were visiting...and now who were NOT to commit sexual immorality and 3 OT dietary laws...and on every Sabbath to hear Moses and NOW THE NEW PROGRAM OF THE HOPE AND GLORY OF ISRAEL...you know the One resurrected...and FOR ALL...WHO SAID FOLLOW ME...whosoever believes
Paul was there when the believing wild olive branches which were grafted into the root and trunk were given instructions NOT to bring Ham or be sexually immoral if they wished to hear Moses preached every Sabbath...
Paul and Barnabas spoke of the miracle amongst the gentiles said NOTHING about the 5 "house rules for fellowship"
remember that when you claim another gospel another christ another way
Already in the OT wilderness it is ONE LAW for native and foreigner ALIKE...notice how the foreigner remains foreigner even to receive LAND...and NOT becoming a Jew
only to receive the meat of Passover was it required for circumcision...the unleavened bread remained available...how is THAT for foreshadowing? “I am the LIVING Bread...for ALL“ this is why Paul writes col 2:17 these ARE shadows of good things to come...
you mean to claim no longer has to keep the Sabbath...LOL your hatred for His ways is noted...king Jimmy got it 1/2 right...no to circumcising as it never was mandated but of course keep the law...as if only sexual immorality and the Sabbath were the only 2 laws required of the 10
He JOINED Jew and Gentile...made them the same...HE saw NO DISTINCTION...you insist a difference and rebelling against Him His way claiming they are "NOT FOR ME"
what was that about repeating something is not making it true?
Trusting in Christ compels obedience to LIVE AS HE LIVED...you would have it be like Satan who trusts IN HIM but DOES NOT OBEY? LOL
were made the same...by Him...let no man separate...
covered that...my wife has a body...hope yours does too...
as if a body of people of faith has no head...LOL
hey!... TRINITY aint anywhere neither but but but...LOL
being born again was a new concept too...
What is NOT in scripture is a new program where a group is above the law...and has their own way in...
Yes only Passover...required circumcision...and not all that were saved from Egypt were circumcised...but still in the body...
but look
Exodus 12:19 Seven days shall there be no leaven found in your houses: for whosoever eateth that which is leavened, even that soul shall be cut off from the congregation of Israel, whether he be a stranger, or born in the land.
BTW Egyptians also circumcised... are they saved too? Moses was not...
right good you admit strangers within thy gates received the Sabbath...not being cut they were still strangers and STILL RECEIVED SABBATH...the irony
yup...review Acts 15 council where 5 things were still required...oh and well the rest of the 10 commandments too? Or this NEW PROGRAM allows for killing stealing lying coveting worshipping another god making idols blaspheming His name dishonoring parents?
well if you agreed to that the NT Jew forgot/ignored/rejected their purpose to be a light to the WORLD then if the JEWS HAD NOT then it would be that ALL would come to worship as it was supposed to be in the OT...but already there a monopoly of His house was begun...had Jews remembered they were to be a blessing to the World they would have NOT rejected Yahushua's message or Him
right...in circumcision and not FAITH...faith does NOT annul the Law however...please recall that Romans 3:31[quote
for one Judging rightly you sure don't know the word...LOL...
1 Kings 12...King Rehoboam taxed until civil war...just like Samuel warned I Samuel 8 Samuel tells them that the king would take all the good things for himself and make them his servants
Acts 15 came after Acts 9 right? so well gentiles are still doing the 10 and dietary laws...
OT promised strangers land...NT did too...heavenly land and in the NEW EARTH
Even at his trials those arguing as you do now "Paul teaches Jesus changed...or NEW PROGRAM NOW" were NOT PROVEN...he was innocent and worshipped in accordance to customs
Acts 28:17"Three days later he called together the local Jewish leaders.When they had assembled, Paul said to them: “My brothers although I have done nothing against our people or against the customs of our ancestors, I was arrested in Jerusalem and handed over to the Romans."
You think Paul's NEW PROGRAM was complicit to Jewish customs? LOL
Acts 28:21They replied, “We have not received any letters from Judea concerning you, and none of our people who have come from there has reported or said anything bad about you."
You don't think Jews in Rome would have heard about Paul teaching a NEW PROGRAM..."Sabbath suspended abolished eat SWINE NOW" LOL
They about tore each other up just arguing over resurrection and Pharisees found NO EVIL in Paul Acts 23:9 you think Pharisees are ok with Paul's NEW PROGRAM? LOL
Acts 23 and 28 are after 9 yes? NOTHING about a NEW PROGRAM but warnings against another gospel another way...being robbed of your reward by philosophy and wolves...
You don't think Jews in Rome would have heard about Paul teaching a NEW PROGRAM..."Sabbath suspended abolished eat SWINE NOW" LOL
They about tore each other up just arguing over resurrection and Pharisees found NO EVIL in Paul Acts 23:9 you think Pharisees are ok with Paul's NEW PROGRAM? LOL
Acts 23 and 28 are after 9 yes? NOTHING about a NEW PROGRAM but warnings against another gospel another way...being robbed of your reward by philosophy and wolves...
to the Roman Jews...how does he end? Circumcised hearts and "inner Jew" minds...
Law never saved...wasn't designed to do so...just point out sin and need of Savior...MERCY rather than sacrifice...
ummmm BINGO...and thus we are to establish THE SAME LAW...points out the SAME SAVIOR...
the Law is a tutor and if your tutor teaches you Math 2+2=4...does any of that change once you graduate? does it become 5 or the color red? NO it remains 4...
when 3:31? to romans Jews and gentiles...BOTH are to establish this Law to represent Him His Ways and need for salvation...your NEW PROGRAM group has NO LAW to show their need of a Savior? LOL
BECAUSE THEY KEEP THE SAME RULES...
for centuries after Romans thought this sect a Jewish one...BECAUSE THEY REJECTED JEWISH CUSTOMS? LOL hardly...
it took a few more centuries of anti Semitism to fully divorce "the Way" from all things Jewish...ask Constantine..
yes KEEPING THE LAW...let no one judge you but the BOC...gentiles are grafted INTO a PRIOR root and trunk and MATCHING branches NOT cut off for UNBELIEF...BOTH in Him are citizens of Israel...BOTH in Him are joined into a building a holy temple...He destroyed the middle wall of separation and abolished Jewish enmity for "unclean" goyim...they are ALL circumcised in heart and "inward jew" of Christ MIND...
again KEEPING THE SAME LAW...inheriting the SAME promises
branches which remain were of ISRAEL a remnant...and of an Israel already having those NOT OF JACOB...Jews were cut off for unbelief...in Him not for giving up on Sabbath or clean meats..
Romans 9:8 “that is, it is NOT the children of the flesh who are children of Yah but the children of promise ARE REGARDED AS DESCENDANTS”
Israel was always by promise...not DNA
that a blind pagan could find a distinction between YOUR MAD NEW PROGRAM which was not keeping the Law and frying up bacon and the Branches that were NOT CUT OFF which did NOT fry up some bacon...
Whereas Yah could NOT find a distinction...because BOTH branches that were NOT cut off and the new branches grafted IN produced the SAME fruits...NEITHER FRIED THE BACON
ditto...NOW WHAT?
and He did...put the SAME LAWS into circumcised hearts and INWARD JEW minds...neat eh? And In both covenants ISRAEL included those NOT OF JACOB...also neat eh?
unbelieving in what Him the HOPE OF ISRAEL or their laws? I say they rejected Him NOT their laws...is why they were cut off...despite keeping the laws...
yup and once grafted IN they produced THE SAME FRUIT...cuz well they were FAMILY now...no longer strangers but citizens of Israel, joined with Jews into a NEW MAN and NEW BUILDING HOLY...and Acts 15 just clarified how clean meats could still be made unclean...so please wipe your feet coming INTO OUR CLUB...which the gentiles were HAPPY TO DO...NOT like you and yours in insolent and indolent rebellion against His Ways...claiming "NOT FOR ME"
yup that Yahushua was the TELOS of the WHOLE OT...the purpose the aim the goal...is WHY we are to FOLLOW HIM...
Yahushua is the hope of Israel...that is the mystery revealed...The Who Enoch walked with...the Who Abraham washed the feet of...Who Jacob wrestled with? now finally that Head from the beginning when the body was still in the OT wilderness was revealed...
But yes yes of course receive grace and be saved first...no mystery there...apart from the law...duh
FAITH and then WORKS...and then to do works He prepared for us...to ESTABLISH the LAW "to show that the unbeliever is condemned and in need of a Savior"
nicely put BTW...
who Satan? Oh he believes everything we do...That He is Son of Yah...Is the Savior...Is loving and merciful...and yet he DOES NOT OBEY...cuz His ways are "NOT FOR ME"
Also...
LOL...why? Satan believes, has faith, even received GRACE...was NOT KILLED but given his OWN PLANET...
also not my fault he too does NOT obey Him His ways but claims all that "NOT FOR ME" and he TOO still wants a temple built and TEMPORAL POWER...hmmmm…he too wants to rule the world for 1000 years or more...LOL
would we even need grace if not under law? Do NOT boast or you TOO will be cut off from the trunk and root you were grafted INTO...and for the same reason "I am safe no need for repentance and grace"
who me? Paul taught me the Law is good shows me my need for a Savior...and DAILY...not just one gulp and BINGO refreshed forever never again another drink of lemonade...LOL
the WHOSOEVER believeth shall NOT perish that's who...
and in believing they of course LOVE AS HE LOVED which fulfills the Law...and well now IN HIM they live as He did...and IN HIS IMAGE they keep the LAW AS HE DID...as Paul said "copy me as I copy Christ" and to the gentiles he said it...
and? you mean the word "adoption" Cuz plenty of evidence strangers lived within their gates...Remember the Sabbath? yup they adopted that too...Ruth adopted Naomi’s people and God...in fact 4 Gentiles in the Family ancestry of Yahushua...grafted INTO...
LOL...”circumcision authors“...you mean the OT...yeah NEVER any ALL Nations worshipping Yah there...LOL...no Sabbath to strangers within the gate...the only one of 10 which includes their adoption...
and what He has brought together let no man separate...
Mystery right?
Lev 19:34 The stranger who resides with you shall be to you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt; I am the Lord your God.
Exodus 12:49 The same law shall apply to the native as to the stranger who sojourns among you.”
Leviticus 24:22 There shall be one standard for you; it shall be for the stranger as well as the native, for I am the Lord your God.’”
Numbers 9:14If an alien sojourns among you and observes the Passover to the Lord, according to the statute of the Passover and according to its ordinance, so he shall do; you shall have one statute, both for the alien and for the native of the land.’”
Numbers 15:14If an alien sojourns with you, or one who may be among you throughout your generations, and he wishes to make an offering by fire, as a soothing aroma to the Lord, just as you do so he shall do.
Numbers 15:15As for the assembly, there shall be one statute for you and for the alien who sojourns with you, a perpetual statute throughout your generations; as you are, so shall the alien be before the Lord.
Numbers 15:16There is to be one law and one ordinance for you and for the alien who sojourns with you.’”
Numbers 15:29 You shall have one law for him who does anything unintentionally, for him who is native among the sons of Israel and for the alien who sojourns among them.
Deuteronomy 1:16 “Then I charged your judges at that time, saying, ‘Hear the cases between your fellow countrymen, and judge righteously between a man and his fellow countryman, or the alien who is with him.
Deuteronomy 24:14“You shall not oppress a hired servant who is poor and needy, whether he is one of your countrymen or one of your aliens who is in your land in your towns.
Leviticus 18:26 But as for you, you are to keep My statutes and My judgments and shall not do any of these abominations, neither the native, nor the alien who sojourns among you
Exodus 12:19 Seven days there shall be no leaven found in your houses; for whoever eats what is leavened, that person shall be cut off from the congregation of Israel, whether he is an alien or a native of the land.
Exodus 20:10 but the seventh day is a sabbath of the Lord your God; in it you shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter, your male or your female servant or your cattle or your sojourner who stays with you
Deuteronomy 5:14but the seventh day is a sabbath of the Lord your God; in it you shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter or your male servant or your female servant or your ox or your donkey or any of your cattle or your sojourner who stays with you, so that your male servant and your female servant may rest as well as you.
Leviticus 16:29“This shall be a permanent statute for you: in the seventh month, on the tenth day of the month, you shall humble your souls and not do any work, whether the native, or the alien who sojourns among you;
Leviticus 17:8“Then you shall say to them, ‘Any man from the house of Israel, or from the aliens who sojourn among them, who offers a burnt offering or sacrifice,
Leviticus 17:10‘And any man from the house of Israel, or from the aliens who sojourn among them, who eats any blood, I will set My face against that person who eats blood and will cut him off from among his people.
Leviticus 22:18 “Speak to Aaron and to his sons and to all the sons of Israel and say to them, ‘Any man of the house of Israel or of the aliens in Israel who presents his offering, whether it is any of their votive or any of their freewill offerings, which they present to the Lord for a burnt offering"
There are more...but I think you see how
Ezekiel 47:23 has them receive land...as strangers sojourning NOT cut
Israel was under the SAME condition...literally Jacob by belief was renamed Israel...by belief he was even born...nothing normal DNA about him...Israel was always a Divine construct
both covenants were by faith first...and then who are you a slave to?...Paul says slave to Him His ways...even told the gentiles that...A SLAVE TO Yah...sounds NOTHING like your new program of insolent indolence...GRACE ALONE...faith compels works...His works as He worked...and rested...
belief in the BOC?....hmmm yes many do believe in the church to advocate for and save them...but that is NOT scripture...ONLY HE can save...believe in Him His ways...and NOT the BOC whoever claims to be it
I will stick to the One Who says "I CHANGE NOT" thanks...and Yah made NO DISTINCTION as it was when as Stephen called it THIS ekklesia was in the OT wilderness...already full of those NOT OF JACOB...and with ONE LAW to establish...”copy me AS I copy Yahushua “ Paul instructed the gentiles...
your new program is led by another who claimed His ways “NOT FOR ME”
Given that these exchanges are so long I hope not to miss that Paul writes of this body as “For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body-whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free-and have all been made to drink into one Spirit” 1 Cor 12:13 which is a continuation from when this ekklesia was in the OT wilderness “and drank the same spiritual drink for they drank from the Spiritual rock that accompanied them and that rock was Christ” 1 Cor 10:4...and already full of those NOT OF JACOB...
Please notice verse 5 “But with MOST of them Yah was not well pleased for their bodies were scattered in the wilderness”
Did you note it was NOT “with ALL of them...” so there remained a remnant...of that Body which He was already Head of in the OT wilderness when we received the LIVING oracles...as per Stephen Acts 7:38
So the remnant STILL contain the LIVING oracles...as they ARE shadows of things to come...even still...let no one judge you your keeping these LIVING oracles...but the Body of Christ...the remnant STILL living these oracles...
You good? Taking a long weekend? Hope you got some rest..
Back at ya...
that TGIF feeling is your body’s way of saying it wants to rest ...
be blessed rested and refreshed
Right Divider
Body part
You are completely indoctrinated into false doctrine.
Pipiripi
Member
You are helpless, 2Thessalonians 2:10-12 is for you. Who are the people of Revelation 12:17 and 14:12? Are you one of them?
Pipiripi
Member
My friend go and see again with which person Paul is talking to.
There is a debate about Sabbath, go on YouTube and take a look maybe you can learn something.
Jim Staley/Chris Rosenberg.
Right Divider
Body part
The deluded one here is you.
The "remnant" in scripture is always talking about faithful members of the nation of Israel.
Welcome to the divided kingdom of Yah...
between those that do wish to Be MORE like Him His Ways vs those that claim the OT is NOT FOR ME
you see? Sabbath makes people so MAD they claim they are NOT part of well...His people...although they believe they are SAVED...
they LOOT the promise but reject the very Law which enshrines IT and secures their right to it by adoption which He guaranteed at the cross...
they are SQUATTERS in His kingdom insisting they have no house rules or chores...
faith for them makes void the Law despite Paul’s insistence we establish it and that we copy him as he copied Christ...JUST AS...
oh well...like I said...they are MAD...rioting and looting demanding the police are defunded...LOL
seriously go research Scofield Darby and their Zionist Mid Acts Deception...errr Decepticon....sorry I mean Dispensationalists...
and be amazed how transformed this gospel has become...
beloved57
Well-known member
False assumption!
Right Divider
Body part
It's not an assumption.
beloved57
Well-known member
Yes it is. Prove it from the scriptures
Right Divider
Body part
Please show me even a single example of "remnant" that is NOT associated with believing Israel.
beloved57
Well-known member
You need to prove your assumption
Right Divider
Body part
I don't make assumptions.
You made the CLAIM that the remnant is the body of Christ.
You were wrong from the OP.
P.S. The words "remnant" and "church" never appear together in scripture.... so who's making assumptions?
beloved57
Well-known member
So you make statements without showing any scripture support !