When "BLM" doesn't matter...

[Lon]

Lon, you seem to be calling out for the World to cease demonstrating for and on behalf of the BLM movement because some idiot kids who are allowed to keep military style rifles went to a road block with them and a girl got killed there.

Well, until they organize with level heads, yes, I think it'd be best to stay home instead of casting something important in such bad light. That father's cry will always be with me and echo through time. It sounds like we'd both agree on a lot, but rather whether we endorse the means and methods is where we are in disagreement.

The World's demonstrators did not support the killers there, just as it protests against racial bigotry. You can't stop it unless you, Lon, can convince the World that you can end bigoted arrogant hatred and harassment of people because of (either) their race, colour, religion, nationality, gender or any disabilities. So shout away for what you want........ but they won't listen. And to suggest that demonstrators are all wicked is just naive, frankly.

We can, as far as society is concerned, anyway. Of course I cannot stop something in the South persay. We just don't want it to be done with violent or complicit means. We want to be responsible. Such is, I think, a no-brainer when the very lives lost are those that should have been preserved. There is no question that these young children deserved to live. Where I live in WA, the demonstrations where done with permission (I don't think permits, but the city streamlined). There were police the whole way to protect the demonstrators and the community as well as keep traffic off of certain avenues. It worked very well, so I think it can be done. Portland? Not so much. There was a lot of conflict there.

 

[eider]

Incorrect. All movements, not done orderly and lawfully, have resulted in the past with harm and loss of life.

Oh My Goodness! The things you say! You see what you want to see.
And did you think that the Baptist's meetings, or Jesus's meetings... were considered to be lawful back then?
You see, Lon, it depends who the leaders are doesn't it?

Any illegal movement after will also do the same regardless of what you'd like to say otherwise. All it needed/needs is level responsible heads, not hot-headed irresponsible ones.

The BLM movement is not illegal.......... what it stands up against has been unlawful for a very long time.

You have moaned because of my mention of gun freedoms in the US..... not relevant, you say, but you need to understand that many gun nuts insist that they have guns for protection in the event of a bad government, then you tell me that they would need permits to deploy themselves.......

The unlawful killing of that baby in a Portland fast food car-park is all about your daft gun freedoms.

Where I live we react to the murders of babies by gun.... we really do! No messing! When Thomas bloody Hamilton walked in to an infants school in Dunblane, Scotland and mass murdered innocent infants and their teachers......... WE BANNED PISTOLS HERE.!!! WE DON'T EVEN ALLOW THE OLYMPIC PISTOL EVENTS TO BE HELD IN BRITAIN ANYWHERE! NO PISTOLS!

Military Style long guns all got banned after a mass murder in Hungerford, South England.

You see? We react...... you just try to manipulate things how you want them, you don't stand up for that Portland baby at all or you'd be calling for gun controls.

 

[eider]

Addressed to Lon.....

No problem!

At first I took the OP seriously, a genuine call for 'when babies start getting killed it's surely time to stop and think again'.
But the OP now appears to be manipulating a baby's death to stop a movement that he doesn't like. Nothing more.

................because a significant factor in the girl's death is the fact that just about anybody can buy a fast-fire rifle and go out in public places with it.

Stop the BLM movement and everybody go home? Oh yes!! Yes!
Push for more effective gun-controls? Oh No! No!!!

 

[ok doser]

Oh My Goodness! The things you say! You see what you want to see.
And did you think that the Baptist's meetings, or Jesus's meetings... were considered to be lawful back then?
You see, Lon, it depends who the leaders are doesn't it?


The BLM movement is not illegal.......... what it stands up against has been unlawful for a very long time.

You have moaned because of my mention of gun freedoms in the US..... not relevant, you say, but you need to understand that many gun nuts insist that they have guns for protection in the event of a bad government, then you tell me that they would need permits to deploy themselves.......

The unlawful killing of that baby in a Portland fast food car-park is all about your daft gun freedoms.

Where I live we react to the murders of babies by gun.... we really do! No messing! When Thomas bloody Hamilton walked in to an infants school in Dunblane, Scotland and mass murdered innocent infants and their teachers......... WE BANNED PISTOLS HERE.!!! WE DON'T EVEN ALLOW THE OLYMPIC PISTOL EVENTS TO BE HELD IN BRITAIN ANYWHERE! NO PISTOLS!

Military Style long guns all got banned after a mass murder in Hungerford, South England.

You see? We react......

Well isn't that just special? And so no children have been murdered since then right?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...woman-screaming-as-children-stabbed-in-london


If you don't immediately ban knives, you don't care about the children.

 

[ok doser]

Well, until they organize with level heads, yes, I think it'd be best to stay home instead of casting something important in such bad light. That father's cry will always be with me and echo through time. It sounds like we'd both agree on a lot, but rather whether we endorse the means and methods is where we are in disagreement.


We can, as far as society is concerned, anyway. Of course I cannot stop something in the South persay. We just don't want it to be done with violent or complicit means. We want to be responsible. Such is, I think, a no-brainer when the very lives lost are those that should have been preserved. There is no question that these young children deserved to live. Where I live in WA, the demonstrations where done with permission (I don't think permits, but the city streamlined). There were police the whole way to protect the demonstrators and the community as well as keep traffic off of certain avenues. It worked very well, so I think it can be done. Portland? Not so much. There was a lot of conflict there.

Your patience with eider's foolishness is amazing

 

[ok doser]

Lon

This is what eider refuses to see: https://www.dailywire.com/news/seatt...ign=benshapiro


It's the rule of law vs. the rule of the mob

 

[Lon]

Oh My Goodness! The things you say! You see what you want to see.
And did you think that the Baptist's meetings, or Jesus's meetings... were considered to be lawful back then?
You see, Lon, it depends who the leaders are doesn't it?

Melodrama runs high in New Zealand?

You are correct it depends on the leaders. Glad we agree.

The BLM movement is not illegal.......... what it stands up against has been unlawful for a very long time.

It is more about those 'leaders' we were talking about.

You have moaned because of my mention of gun freedoms in the US..... not relevant, you say, but you need to understand that many gun nuts insist that they have guns for protection in the event of a bad government, then you tell me that they would need permits to deploy themselves.......

The unlawful killing of that baby in a Portland fast food car-park is all about your daft gun freedoms.

This thread is not about gun control.

Where I live we react to the murders of babies by gun.... we really do! No messing! When Thomas bloody Hamilton walked in to an infants school in Dunblane, Scotland and mass murdered innocent infants and their teachers......... WE BANNED PISTOLS HERE.!!! WE DON'T EVEN ALLOW THE OLYMPIC PISTOL EVENTS TO BE HELD IN BRITAIN ANYWHERE! NO PISTOLS!

I'm reading that it didn't work. "...a cursory look at the news will show that on any given day there are guns employed by the criminal fraternity in robberies, attacks and gang violence.

While criminals will always find ways to get their hands on guns, the Firearms (Amendment) (No 2) Act that was brought in 20 years ago has made an undoubted difference to the gun landscape in the UK, just as similar legislation did in Australia."
A difference but then he says the last two years in Britain and Australia has seen a rise in hand gun violence.... :think:

Point? This discussion can take place someplace else. It really isn't answering the question AND it detracts from the life of black lives that mattered, mattering. Let's not do that.

Military Style long guns all got banned after a mass murder in Hungerford, South England.

You see? We react...... you just try to manipulate things how you want them, you don't stand up for that Portland baby at all or you'd be calling for gun controls.

Plenty of mass killings after your gun laws. This thread is not about gun laws. There are all kinds of considerations regarding gun control that other threads, dedicated to it, have been better suited to answering.

 

[Lon]

Lon

This is what eider refuses to see: https://www.dailywire.com/news/seatt...ign=benshapiro


It's the rule of law vs. the rule of the mob

Jenny Durkan is a very liberal Democrat who called the irresponsible movement 'a summer of love' until that illegal mob marched against her home.

 

[User Name]

Jenny Durkan is a very liberal Democrat who called the irresponsible movement 'a summer of love' until that illegal mob marched against her home.

Also after there were 6 shootings in the CHAZ/CHOP and 2 people murdered. The protesters claim to be against police brutality, but in the area under their control there was no due process, no civil rights, etc. If they suspected someone of an offense, they committed assault against them, no questions asked.

 

[User Name]

These are the BLMers who say they are protesting against police brutality: https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status...51365155168257

 

[eider]

Melodrama runs high in New Zealand?

Never been there.

This thread is not about gun control.

I'm reading that it didn't work. "...a cursory look at the news will show that on any given day there are guns employed by the criminal fraternity in robberies, attacks and gang violence.

While criminals will always find ways to get their hands on guns, the Firearms (Amendment) (No 2) Act that was brought in 20 years ago has made an undoubted difference to the gun landscape in the UK, just as similar legislation did in Australia."
A difference but then he says the last two years in Britain and Australia has seen a rise in hand gun violence.... :think:

Point? This discussion can take place someplace else. It really isn't answering the question AND it detracts from the life of black lives that mattered, mattering. Let's not do that.

It became about gun control when you wrote about a teenaged idiot with a fast fire rifle in a public place, shooting in to a car and killing a baby.
I don't know where you got that junk from, but most of our police still don't carry firearms.
And we have not had a mass shooting in a very very long time, whilst you get them weekly or monthly, so that was all baloney.

Plenty of mass killings after your gun laws. This thread is not about gun laws. There are all kinds of considerations regarding gun control that other threads, dedicated to it, have been better suited to answering.

You see? You did want to talk about guns after all.,
Now......... all these gun crimes in the UK....... where are they? You need to find about 20 gun killings a day to come close to the US situation.

Now...... why could a teenaged nutter have a fast fire military style weapon in the first place? Why could he go out in public with it?

By the way......... who will pay compensation to the little babies' family for their suffering and loss? Because I'll bet that the teenaged nutter had no insurance for such happenings at all. It's all totally mad.

 

[Lon]

Never been there.



It became about gun control when you wrote about a teenaged idiot with a fast fire rifle in a public place, shooting in to a car and killing a baby.
I don't know where you got that junk from, but most of our police still don't carry firearms.
And we have not had a mass shooting in a very very long time, whilst you get them weekly or monthly, so that was all baloney.

As far as I'm aware, it was a pistol. You are hitting upon a lot of ideas you are importing into this thread.

You see? You did want to talk about guns after all.,
Now......... all these gun crimes in the UK....... where are they? You need to find about 20 gun killings a day to come close to the US situation.

Now...... why could a teenaged nutter have a fast fire military style weapon in the first place? Why could he go out in public with it?

By the way......... who will pay compensation to the little babies' family for their suffering and loss? Because I'll bet that the teenaged nutter had no insurance for such happenings at all. It's all totally mad.

No, not really. This thread is about irresponsibility of hot-headed demonstrating and the aftermath. That you want to talk about something else? There are a good many topics on that (I even linked one for you).

This discussion can take place someplace else. It really isn't answering the question AND it detracts from the life of black lives that mattered, mattering. Let's not do that.


Plenty of mass killings after your gun laws. This thread is not about gun laws. There are all kinds of considerations regarding gun control that other threads, dedicated to it, have been better suited to answering.

 

[ok doser]

As far as I'm aware, it was a pistol. You are hitting upon a lot of ideas you are importing into this thread.


No, not really. This thread is about irresponsibility of hot-headed demonstrating and the aftermath. That you want to talk about something else? There are a good many topics on that (I even linked one for you).

Not sure that eider understands what links are and what they do

 

[Lon]

Not sure that eider understands what links are and what they do

So no point in looking up most of them and linking, then?

 

[ok doser]

So no point in looking up most of them and linking, then?

I appreciate them but it doesn't seem to be something that he can incorporate into a discussion.

 

[Lon]

I appreciate them but it doesn't seem to be something that he can incorporate into a discussion.

Here they are:

Gun Control made England one of the most violent countries in the world

Gun Control History

Marxism, Marxist Theory and Gun Control

Gun control with brains

Gun Control

Gun Control - a Liberal/Socialist Fantasy Solution

Nicholas J. Freitas on Gun Control

Gun Control the easy way

Gun control advocates need an education

A sad but practical lesson on gun control

Do you support Gun Control?

Support or oppose gun control?

Limit type of weapons?

Advocate gun control!

 

[eider]

Here they are:

Gun Control made England one of the most violent countries in the world

Gun Control History

Marxism, Marxist Theory and Gun Control

Gun control with brains

Gun Control

Gun Control - a Liberal/Socialist Fantasy Solution

Nicholas J. Freitas on Gun Control

Gun Control the easy way

Gun control advocates need an education

A sad but practical lesson on gun control

Do you support Gun Control?

Support or oppose gun control?

Limit type of weapons?

Advocate gun control!

So you really didn't want to debate gun control, then.
Really...?

Do think about proper training, testing, Crim Record checks, Home security checks, mandatory gun safes, Mandatory Insurance, licensing, and banning of military type guns.

I think we're done here, Lon.
And the BLM movement won't stop now.......... it's rolling......

See you later, Lon.....

 

[ok doser]

Here they are:

Was I right?

 

[7djengo7]

And the BLM movement won't stop now.......... it's rolling......

As long as there're enough vicious, thoughtless, semi-literate lapdog fools such as yourself to cheer it on, of course the Nazi leftard, anti-black movement you call "the BLM movement" won't stop.

 

[ok doser]

... the BLM movement won't stop now.......... it's rolling......

Indeed it is eider - the BLM riots and protests that are inextricably linked to the Democrat party are rolling along pushing the Trump train to an inevitable victory in November.