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  • Originally posted by godrulz View Post
    Not every verse in the OT is Messianic. We do not deny Messianic verses, just wrong proof texting which you are prone to. Context is king. Your anti-intellectualism leaves you open to confusion and deception.
    You do deny it. LOL

    You do deny it.

    You said this is not about Jesus...

    1 Chronicles 22:10 He is the one who will build a house for my Name. He will be my son, and I will be his father. And I will establish the throne of his kingdom over Israel forever.'

    Just as the Jews do, you deny that Jesus fulfilled the Prophets.

    Matthew 5:17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!

    Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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    • 1 Chron 17:13 I will be his father, and he will be my son. I will never take my love away from him, as I took it away from your predecessor.


      Paul is quoting 1 Chronicles 17:13


      Hebrews 1:5 For to which of the angels did God ever say, "You are my Son; today I have become your Father"? Or again, "I will be his Father, and he will be my Son"?
      Oh how I love the Word of God!

      Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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      • Originally posted by godrulz View Post
        Not every verse in the OT is Messianic. We do not deny Messianic verses, just wrong proof texting which you are prone to. Context is king. Your anti-intellectualism leaves you open to confusion and deception.
        End of sentence preposition.
        Oh how I love the Word of God!

        Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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        • Originally posted by Tambora View Post
          What makes this really funny is that all she had to do was read the previous verse where it says who the son is.
          You made a joke out of yourself.
          Oh how I love the Word of God!

          Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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          • Originally posted by Tambora View Post
            What makes this really funny is that all she had to do was read the previous verse where it says who the son is.

            1Ch 22:9 Behold, a son shall be born to thee, who shall be a man of rest; and I will give him rest from all his enemies round about: for his name shall be Solomon, and I will give peace and quietness unto Israel in his days.




            Jesus fulfilled the PROPHETS. Those scriptures are Jesus speaking about when he comes as a Son.

            Matthew 5:17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.


            Paul is quoting those scriptures in the Old Testament, proving that they are about Jesus.


            Hebrews 1:5
            For to which of the angels did God ever say, "You are my Son; today I have become your Father"? Or again, "I will be his Father, and he will be my Son"?

            1 Chronicles 17:13
            I will be his father, and he will be my son. I will never take my love away from him, as I took it away from your predecessor.

            2 Samuel 7:14
            I will be his father, and he will be my son. When he does wrong, I will punish him with a rod wielded by men, with floggings inflicted by human hands.

            Acts 13:33
            he has fulfilled for us, their children, by raising up Jesus. As it is written in the second Psalm: "'You are my son; today I have become your father.'

            Hebrews 5:5
            In the same way, Christ did not take on himself the glory of becoming a high priest. But God said to him, "You are my Son; today I have become your Father."
            Oh how I love the Word of God!

            Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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            • Originally posted by God's Truth View Post

              Originally posted by Tambora View Post
              What makes this really funny is that all she had to do was read the previous verse where it says who the son is.

              1Ch 22:9 Behold, a son shall be born to thee, who shall be a man of rest; and I will give him rest from all his enemies round about: for his name shall be Solomon, and I will give peace and quietness unto Israel in his days.



              lol..So then, you are denying the prophetic writings about Jesus foretold in the Old Testament.
              You are sooooooo very stupid.

              Of course it is prophetic.
              But the instance of who the actual son spoken of in the verse is SOLOMON, not Christ.

              Just as when the nation of Israel was called out of Egypt is prophetic, but it was still ISRAEL, not Christ, that was called out of Egypt in:
              Hos 11:1
              When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt.
              And to confirm that the above (while it was prophetic) was really speaking of the nation of Israel (not Christ) at the time, read the next verse:

              Hos 11:2
              As they called them, so they went from them: they sacrificed unto Baalim, and burned incense to graven images.
              Christ did not sacrifice to Baalim, nor burn incense to graven images after He came out of Egypt.
              But Israel did.



              I can't wait to see what other dumb thing you say about scripture. It cracks me up!




              We don't tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters exist.
              They already know monsters exist.
              We tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters can be killed.

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              • Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
                Jesus fulfilled the PROPHETS. Those scriptures are Jesus speaking about when he comes as a Son.

                Matthew 5:17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.


                Paul is quoting those scriptures in the Old Testament, proving that they are about Jesus.


                Hebrews 1:5
                For to which of the angels did God ever say, "You are my Son; today I have become your Father"? Or again, "I will be his Father, and he will be my Son"?

                1 Chronicles 17:13
                I will be his father, and he will be my son. I will never take my love away from him, as I took it away from your predecessor.

                2 Samuel 7:14
                I will be his father, and he will be my son. When he does wrong, I will punish him with a rod wielded by men, with floggings inflicted by human hands.

                Acts 13:33
                he has fulfilled for us, their children, by raising up Jesus. As it is written in the second Psalm: "'You are my son; today I have become your father.'

                Hebrews 5:5
                In the same way, Christ did not take on himself the glory of becoming a high priest. But God said to him, "You are my Son; today I have become your Father."
                I see you chose translations that left out the word "begotten". Jesus is the only begotten Son. Shame on you, GT, for trying to sneak in your deception.


                For example, Israel was not a begotten son.
                Exodus 4:22
                And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:


                The next thing we know, you'll be claiming Ezekiel is Jesus because he is called the "Son of man" just like Jesus called Himself.
                Ezekiel 3:4
                And he said unto me, Son of man, go, get thee unto the house of Israel, and speak with my words unto them.

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                • Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
                  End of sentence preposition.
                  It doesn't have to be like this, GT. You could humble yourself and admit you have a lot to learn....a willingness to listen and be taught.
                  It's your pride that is leading to your fall. And we are all witnesses of that fall.

                  Proverbs 12:15
                  The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

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                  • Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
                    You do deny it. LOL

                    You do deny it.

                    You said this is not about Jesus...

                    1 Chronicles 22:10 He is the one who will build a house for my Name. He will be my son, and I will be his father. And I will establish the throne of his kingdom over Israel forever.'

                    Just as the Jews do, you deny that Jesus fulfilled the Prophets.

                    Matthew 5:17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
                    The context is talking about David and Solomon. This is the historical fulfillment. It is part of the physical line of Christ, so you might get away with some typology or dual fulfillment, but the original context is historical, not Messianic, per se. If an OT verse is quoted in the NT, it also does not make it predictive in all cases (there is a range of OT/NT quotes that seem out of context, etc., so various explanations have been proposed...I am reading a whole book on this subject).
                    Know God and make Him known! (YWAM)

                    They said: "Where is the God of Elijah?"
                    I say: "Where are the Elijahs of God?" (Ravenhill "Why Revival Tarries")

                    Rev. 1:17, 18; Jer. 9:23, 24

                    "No Compromise!" (Keith Green)

                    The Pledge: He died for me; I'll live for Him.

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                    • Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
                      Anyone who can see can see that it is you who personally attack, and that I merely call it as it is.
                      Like the time you have called me stupid?
                      Like the time you said my opinion was worthless?

                      Anyone who can see, can see that it is you, GT, who personally attack, and that I, lifeisgood, am merely calling it as it is.
                      No man can come to God except through Christ. (Jn. 14:20)
                      No man can come to Christ unless he comes through the Cross. (Jn. 3:16; Eph. 2:13–18)
                      No man can come to the Cross without a denial of self. (Lk. 9:23–24)

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                      • Originally posted by Tambora View Post
                        ......

                        Of course it is prophetic.
                        But the instance of who the actual son spoken of in the verse is SOLOMON, not Christ.

                        Just as when the nation of Israel was called out of Egypt is prophetic, but it was still ISRAEL, not Christ, that was called out of Egypt in:
                        Hos 11:1
                        When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt.
                        And to confirm that the above (while it was prophetic) was really speaking of the nation of Israel (not Christ) at the time, read the next verse:

                        Hos 11:2
                        As they called them, so they went from them: they sacrificed unto Baalim, and burned incense to graven images.
                        Christ did not sacrifice to Baalim, nor burn incense to graven images after He came out of Egypt.
                        But Israel did.

                        .....
                        No man can come to God except through Christ. (Jn. 14:20)
                        No man can come to Christ unless he comes through the Cross. (Jn. 3:16; Eph. 2:13–18)
                        No man can come to the Cross without a denial of self. (Lk. 9:23–24)

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                        • Originally posted by Tambora View Post
                          You are sooooooo very stupid.
                          You describe yourself exactly.

                          Originally posted by Tambora View Post

                          Of course it is prophetic.
                          You said it was about Solomon, not Christ.
                          You are badly mistaken. Now, you are trying to make your error look sensible. There is no way you can clean it up except by repenting.


                          Originally posted by Tambora View Post

                          But the instance of who the actual son spoken of in the verse is SOLOMON, not Christ.
                          You see, you have just made it not prophetic.


                          Originally posted by Tambora View Post


                          Just as when the nation of Israel was called out of Egypt is prophetic, but it was still ISRAEL, not Christ, that was called out of Egypt in:
                          Hos 11:1
                          When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt.
                          And to confirm that the above (while it was prophetic) was really speaking of the nation of Israel (not Christ) at the time, read the next verse:
                          Hos 11:2
                          As they called them, so they went from them: they sacrificed unto Baalim, and burned incense to graven images.
                          Christ did not sacrifice to Baalim, nor burn incense to graven images after He came out of Egypt.
                          But Israel did.

                          I can't wait to see what other dumb thing you say about scripture. It cracks me up!
                          It is about JESUS CHRIST. Do you really think that Solomon was more important? It was Jesus speaking about when he would come as Jesus. You cannot have it both ways. You cannot say it is about Jesus then say it was not. You are proving that you are cracked up.
                          Oh how I love the Word of God!

                          Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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                          • Originally posted by lifeisgood View Post
                            Oh yeah, you are all in the falseness together. There is no protection in numbers for you.
                            Oh how I love the Word of God!

                            Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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                            • I don't know whether to laugh hysterically, or sob uncontrollably?
                              Omniscience limited
                              Prophetic guesses
                              Election by observation
                              No future yet

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                              • Originally posted by fishrovmen View Post
                                I don't know whether to laugh hysterically, or sob uncontrollably?
                                Me neither.
                                No man can come to God except through Christ. (Jn. 14:20)
                                No man can come to Christ unless he comes through the Cross. (Jn. 3:16; Eph. 2:13–18)
                                No man can come to the Cross without a denial of self. (Lk. 9:23–24)

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