There's your problem - to borrow from a point in Musterion's one more great post, Zachariah 14's inspired vision does not match Josephus' non-inspired, histories.
ECT Why preterism can never be taken seriously by Bible believers
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There's your problem - to borrow from a point in Musterion's one more great post, Zachariah 14's inspired vision does not match Josephus' non-inspired, histories.
musterion
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And in any such conflict, one of two things happens. The contradiction is denied/ignored, or it's carefully examined and resolved. Tet will do the former while claiming it's we disps who have failed to do the latter.
Watch...
SaulToPaul 2
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Anything that doesn't match was "conditional" or "fulfilled in Christ Jesus".
musterion
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Or spurtial. Or figgertive. Or alleygorey. Depends.
HisServant
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It takes a lot more twisting of scripture to fit the dispensationalist view of scriptures than it does to take the preterist view... seriously.
In order to believe the dispensionalist view, you need to throw all the time periods out and 'spiritualize' them.. and make a living out of prognosticating when they will happen.
I have lived 55 years on this planet, listening to dispensationalist pastors prognosticate about the end of the world on some specific date only to watch the date pass by.
How many chances are we to give them? Do we just be quiet and let them stew in their idiocy?
Seriously, look at all these whack jobs... and then look at how many are dispensationalist!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events
Ain't gonna happen.
Just remember dispy's.... every time you let your dispensationalism show, I associate you with these false prophets.
In order to believe the dispensionalist view, you need to throw all the time periods out and 'spiritualize' them.. and make a living out of prognosticating when they will happen.
I have lived 55 years on this planet, listening to dispensationalist pastors prognosticate about the end of the world on some specific date only to watch the date pass by.
How many chances are we to give them? Do we just be quiet and let them stew in their idiocy?
Seriously, look at all these whack jobs... and then look at how many are dispensationalist!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events
Ain't gonna happen.
Just remember dispy's.... every time you let your dispensationalism show, I associate you with these false prophets.
SaulToPaul 2
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The MAD wackos on this site are just as disturbed by the predictions as you are.
HisServant
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What bothers me most, is they never run the false prophets out of town like scriptures tell us to... they just keep allowing themselves to be under their false teaching.
All it takes is one false interpretation to disqualify anyone that says they are a teacher.
ClimateSanity
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Titus did all that you know?
SaulToPaul 2
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What Titus did not do was fulfilled in Christ Jesus.
musterion
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He's just like Tet with Darby. If he says you're guilty, insisting you're not only proves you're lying
HisServant
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He is only combating ignorance.... there is nothing new under the sun and someone somewhere believed what you do before you did.
In this case, dispensationalism can be traced back to Darby as being the champion of this new systematic theology. Just because you were never taught about him doesn't mean you do not follow his systematic theology.
"Tet is a preterist that believes Christ already returned in 70 AD viathe Roman Army."-Tambora, on another TOL thread
"Correct, and thanks for making it clear that it was the Roman army that was His return."-stupid Craigie
"The Roman army destroyed Jerusalem in 70AD. That is what Jesus meant when He said He will return."-Gomer Tet.
Hebrews 9:28 KJV
So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
Craigie the Clown: The Roman army was looking for him-that is the "them" above. My infallible AD 70/Pteterist "teachers" taught me,like Hank Hanegraaf, from whom I copy'npaste/spam.
There you go, TOL audience! His "this can be used to address/answer any question, about literal events that are prophesied in the book, that, I Tellallie cannot answer, as it is not in my AD 70-ist/Preterist books/tapes/articles, from infallible men, as this shuts down everyone" scam.
Scammer, snake oil sales"man" for all to observe, witness, as he can "prove" anything, employing this deceit.
We are all stumped, scratchin' our Ernest T. Bass, country bumpkin noggins, Mayor,with this debate stumper/ender, from Craigie Tellalie, so much so, that we are all in denial, embarrassed, not to have seen this before, and our fatal 134th "death knell" that we've suffered, at the hands of Craigie pie....Wait for it....
"All fulfilled in Christ Jesus."-Gomer Craigie pie
Wick Stick
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Some of them do. Some of them don't.
If we deny every point made, we have ceased to engage in logical argumentation, and become mere rhetoricians.
musterion
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Except for that whole 'not one stone left upon another' thing. That was just His nonliteralistic alleygoreicall figger of speechifying, to be spurtially applicated by those in His Kingdom Now.