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"THE CHURCH": A Description of the Biblical Data

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  • #31
    Originally posted by Cruciform View Post
    You have no idea what you're talking about. The only NT document that the early Fathers say was originally written in Hebrew is the gospel of Matthew. That's it. Please adequately educate yourself before presuming to post on a public forum.

    You've already been answered on the rest of your post.
    You apparently have no idea about the state of current scholarship. It has been widely proven that the sentence structure and form of the Greek New Testament writings are in fact HEBREW in origin which proves the Greek was translated from Hebrew.

    Educate yourself.

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    • #32
      "This message is hidden because genuineoriginal is on your ignore list."
      "The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)

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      • #33
        Originally posted by HisServant View Post
        You apparently have no idea about the state of current scholarship. It has been widely proven that the sentence structure and form of the Greek New Testament writings are in fact HEBREW in origin which proves the Greek was translated from Hebrew.
        Your claim about the testimony of the early Church Fathers was erroneous. My statement stands exactly as posted.

        Educate yourself.
        "The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Cruciform View Post
          "This message is hidden because genuineoriginal is on your ignore list."
          Then take me off of ignore and read THIS
          Learn to read what is written.

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          The people who are supposed to be experts and who claim to understand the science are precisely the people who are blind to the evidence.
          ~ Dr Freeman Dyson

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          • #35
            "The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Cruciform View Post
              Your claim about the testimony of the early Church Fathers was erroneous. My statement stands exactly as posted.

              Educate yourself.
              It's not erroneous at all.... its about as contemporary a witness you are ever going to get that indicates that the original writings by the Apostles were in Hebrew and Jesus spoke mainly in Hebrew during his lifetime.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by HisServant View Post
                It's not erroneous at all...
                Already answered (Post #29).
                "The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Cruciform View Post
                  CHURCH

                  Ekklesia (Greek): refers to an "assembly" or "congregation" of people. The words is used 23 times in Acts and 91 times in the rest of the New Testament.

                  The term was broadly applied in Greek literature to several types of social or political gatherings, but more narrowly applied in the Greek Old Testament to the worshiping assembly of Israel (Deut. 9:10; Josh. 8:35; 1 Kings 8:65). With the exception of Acts 19:32, this latter usage is closest to the New Testament meaning of the word.

                  Jesus was the first to use a Semitic equivalent of this term for the covenant community he founded and entrusted to the apostles (Mt. 16:18; 18:17). Thereafter it became the normal designation for local Churches (Rom. 16:16; 1 Cor. 1:2) and for the collective body of local communities that make up the universal Church (Acts 9:31; Eph. 3:10; 5:23).

                  This worldwide congregation is governed by an apostolic hierarchy (1 Cor. 12:28) and is one with the assembly of angels and saints in the heavenly Jerusalem (Heb. 12:22-23).*



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                  *IGNATIUS CATHOLIC STUDY BIBLE: NEW TESTAMENT, 2nd Catholic Edition (Ignatius Press, 2010), p. 215.
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