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Jesus Christ chose to do the will of God instead of his own will.
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Originally posted by beloved57 View PostThats how false teachings and the doctrines of men get started, by someone making comments like yours nowhere taught in scripture.
What do you think he was praying about?
a. what to have for lunch the next day? He did not want to eat his spinach and broccoli?
b. He wanted an i phone and God wasn't going to get him one?
c. He was willing to do whatever God required of him but was asking for a less excruciating way to achieve God's will
Maybe you just don't know the pain and suffering he went through physically and mentally to purchase our salvation and redemption?
Read my post 51 for a brief sample of what he went through."And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42
"Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind" Philippians 2:2
Pro scripture = Protestant
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Originally posted by oatmeal View PostWell, that can happen, however, since it is not plain to you what Jesus was praying for and why, then no amount of supporting scripture can help you.
What do you think he was praying about?
a. what to have for lunch the next day? He did not want to eat his spinach and broccoli?
b. He wanted an i phone and God wasn't going to get him one?
c. He was willing to do whatever God required of him but was asking for a less excruciating way to achieve God's will
Maybe you just don't know the pain and suffering he went through physically and mentally to purchase our salvation and redemption?
Read my post 51 for a brief sample of what he went through."... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."
Charles Spurgeon !
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Originally posted by beloved57 View PostIt sure can happen and you are a prime example of it."And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42
"Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind" Philippians 2:2
Pro scripture = Protestant
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Originally posted by oatmeal View PostSo still stalling?"... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."
Charles Spurgeon !
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Originally posted by beloved57 View PostIm not going to explain nothing to you, its a waste of my time and energy. My objective was to show how people make up their own fables and pass them off as bible teaching. I spend my energy in creating posts I want to discuss.
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Originally posted by JudgeRightly View PostIf you're not interested in participating, then please leave the thread, or you will be kicked from it."And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42
"Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind" Philippians 2:2
Pro scripture = Protestant
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Originally posted by oatmeal View PostJesus Christ, the son of God, obeyed his Father and God.
He chose to do not his own will but the will of the Father, the one who sent him.
Jesus Christ willfully chose to do God’s will instead of his own will, he submitted himself to do the Father’s will.
He chose for himself what he would do or not do, he chose to do God's will, therefore, he chose to not succumb to temptation but to do the will of God.
Hebrews 4:15
For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
His will was a different way to die for our sins, but he willfully submitted to God's will.
Matthew 26:39
And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.
Matthew 26:42
He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done.
Luke 22:42
Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.
Doing God's will was sustenance to Jesus Christ
John 4:34
Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.
John 5:30
I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
John 6:38
For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
Jesus Christ was obedient to death, not just any death but the death of the cross
Philippians 2:7-8
But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
His life was the epitome, the greatest example of obedience to God.
The proper response learning of this is to likewise learn to be obedient even as Jesus Christ obeyed the Father's will.
Philippians 2
4 Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.
5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Even as Jesus Christ being a man, not God, learned obedience to God, via being obedient to his parents, God's written word and later by revelation from God, so should we likewise learn obedience and thus see the benefits of obedience to God.
Hebrews 5:8
Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;
Hebrews 12:2
Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
There is much to be gained by learning from Jesus' example of obedience even if it contradicts our will at times.Oh how I love the Word of God!
Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.
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