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    THERE ARE TWO GODS

    -John 1:1 says there are 2 Gods.

    - I am getting tired of you guys not reading your bible.

    - First you say that there are 3 Gods in the Trinity

    and it shows plainly that the so-called Third person

    is the MIND of Christ as it states in the Bible.

    Jesus has a Throne and the Father has a Throne
    but none for the Comforter

    The Comforter seems to be GREATER than the Father and Son
    because you will not be forgiven if you blaspheme it.

    The Comforter is a Combination of the Father's spirit and
    the Son's spirit and therefore, if you Blaspheme it ,
    you are Blaspheming both of them.

    -----------------------------------------------------------

    - Then the Jewish guys say that the LORD GOD is One

    and have NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME.

    -Jesus said that HE WAS THE LORD GOD OF THE OLD TESTAMENT

    which the Bible backs up with scriptures in Hebrews 9 as the

    Testator who changed things by dying.

    -Jesus said that he came to Reveal God the Father to them.

    -Jesus Prayed to the Father, the One True God in Heaven
    while the other God, JESUS was on the Earth.

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------

    Therefore, it is obvious that there are only 2 Gods.

  • #2
    1 John 5:7-8 KJV

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    • #3
      There is only one uncreated, sovereign, infinite, omnipotent, eternal Being Who is GOD by nature.

      There are many who are called gods, but there is only one GOD and He has revealed Himself as YHVH.
      Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD[YHVH], that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
      Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he[the Branch] shall be called, THE LORD[YHVH] OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by steko View Post
        There is only one uncreated, sovereign, infinite, omnipotent, eternal Being Who is GOD by nature.

        There are many who are called gods, but there is only one GOD and He has revealed Himself as YHVH.
        And He has witnesses !!!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by OCTOBER23 View Post
          THERE ARE TWO GODS

          -John 1:1 says there are 2 Gods.

          - I am getting tired of you guys not reading your bible.

          - First you say that there are 3 Gods in the Trinity

          and it shows plainly that the so-called Third person

          is the MIND of Christ as it states in the Bible.

          Jesus has a Throne and the Father has a Throne
          but none for the Comforter

          The Comforter seems to be GREATER than the Father and Son
          because you will not be forgiven if you blaspheme it.

          The Comforter is a Combination of the Father's spirit and
          the Son's spirit and therefore, if you Blaspheme it ,
          you are Blaspheming both of them.

          -----------------------------------------------------------

          - Then the Jewish guys say that the LORD GOD is One

          and have NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME.

          -Jesus said that HE WAS THE LORD GOD OF THE OLD TESTAMENT

          which the Bible backs up with scriptures in Hebrews 9 as the

          Testator who changed things by dying.

          -Jesus said that he came to Reveal God the Father to them.

          -Jesus Prayed to the Father, the One True God in Heaven
          while the other God, JESUS was on the Earth.

          ----------------------------------------------------------------------

          Therefore, it is obvious that there are only 2 Gods.
          I suggest you study John 1 some more.

          ARAMAIC ENGLISH NEW TESTAMENT

          YOCHANAN (JOHN)
          Chapter 1
          1. In the beginning was the Miltha. And that Miltha was with Elohim. And Elohim was that Miltha.
          2. This was with Elohim in the beginning.
          3. Everything existed through his hands……….

          Miltha refers to the “Manifestation” of the Ruach haKodesh within Mashiyach. The physical body of Mashiyach is not the Word of YHWH, but his words and actions demonstrate the Will and Word of YHWH, which upholds observance of Torah.

          Miltha is the spiritual son of Elohim (God).
          Mashiyach refers to Messiah Y’shua (Jesus Christ)
          YHWH is the name of the most high God.
          Ruach haKodesh is the Holy Spirit.
          Elohim is God or a god, it can refer to more than the creator.
          Psalm 1[/COLOR] and Job 28:28

          Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

          Joh 4:23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by keypurr View Post
            YHWH is the name of the most high God.
            All things were made through Him and without Him nothing was made that was made. (John 1:3 NKJV)


            He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. (Colossians 1:16 NKJV)


            This is the history of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens. (Genesis 2:4 NKJV)

            The word "LORD" is YHVH, which means self existent. It was he who became the Son of Man.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by jamie View Post
              All things were made through Him and without Him nothing was made that was made. (John 1:3 NKJV)


              He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. (Colossians 1:16 NKJV)


              This is the history of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens. (Genesis 2:4 NKJV)

              The word "LORD" is YHVH, which means self existent. It was he who became the Son of Man.
              Right on!
              Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD[YHVH], that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
              Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he[the Branch] shall be called, THE LORD[YHVH] OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

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              • #8
                You know what a stumbling block is right?

                The stumbling block was placed there so that people would get tripped up.

                There is only one person big enough to place that stumbling block where it is.

                It is unmovable.

                You cannot go around it.

                (The Jehovah's Witness cult changes the wording. You could try that? There are others here who seem to have a license.)

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by patrick jane View Post
                  1 John 5:7-8 KJV
                  Bs"d

                  Is it really so hard to understand that that is a falsification?


                  "Serve Y-H-W-H! And if it seems evil to you to serve Y-H-W-H, choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you dwell.
                  But as for me and my house, we will serve Y-H-W-H!
                  .

                  Joshua 24:14-15
                  Please be advised that everywhere in your translation of your OT when it is written "the LORD" with all capitals, then in the original Hebrew it says the four lettered name of God: Y-H-W-H. That name appears almost 7000 times in the Hebrew Bible.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by jamie View Post
                    The word "LORD" is YHVH, which means self existent. It was he who became the Son of Man.
                    Bs"d

                    No he is not. See HERE



                    "For all people will walk every one in the name of his god, and we will walk in the name of Y-H-W-H our God for ever and ever.".

                    Micah 4:5
                    Please be advised that everywhere in your translation of your OT when it is written "the LORD" with all capitals, then in the original Hebrew it says the four lettered name of God: Y-H-W-H. That name appears almost 7000 times in the Hebrew Bible.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by keypurr View Post
                      I suggest you study John 1 some more.

                      ARAMAIC ENGLISH NEW TESTAMENT

                      YOCHANAN (JOHN)
                      Chapter 1
                      1. In the beginning was the Miltha. And that Miltha was with Elohim. And Elohim was that Miltha.
                      2. This was with Elohim in the beginning.
                      3. Everything existed through his hands……….

                      Miltha refers to the “Manifestation” of the Ruach haKodesh within Mashiyach. The physical body of Mashiyach is not the Word of YHWH, but his words and actions demonstrate the Will and Word of YHWH, which upholds observance of Torah.

                      Miltha is the spiritual son of Elohim (God).
                      Mashiyach refers to Messiah Y’shua (Jesus Christ)
                      YHWH is the name of the most high God.
                      Ruach haKodesh is the Holy Spirit.
                      Elohim is God or a god, it can refer to more than the creator.

                      Proverbs 8:12 I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions.

                      Proverbs 8:22-31

                      22 The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.

                      23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.

                      24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.

                      25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:

                      26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.

                      27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:

                      28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:

                      29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:

                      30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;

                      31 Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.
                      Isaiah 11:2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by patrick jane View Post
                        And He has witnesses !!!
                        Bs"d

                        And those witnesses they are the Jews!!

                        "But now, this is what Y-H-W-H says—
                        he who created you, Jacob,
                        he who formed you, Israel:
                        “Do not fear, for I have redeemed you;
                        I have summoned you by name; you are mine.
                        2
                        When you pass through the waters,
                        I will be with you;
                        and when you pass through the rivers,
                        they will not sweep over you.
                        When you walk through the fire,
                        you will not be burned;
                        the flames will not set you ablaze.
                        3
                        For I am Y-H-W-H your God,
                        the Holy One of Israel, your Savior;
                        I give Egypt for your ransom,
                        Cush[a] and Seba in your stead.
                        4
                        Since you are precious and honored in my sight,
                        and because I love you,
                        I will give people in exchange for you,
                        nations in exchange for your life.
                        5
                        Do not be afraid, for I am with you;
                        I will bring your children from the east
                        and gather you from the west.
                        6
                        I will say to the north, ‘Give them up!’
                        and to the south, ‘Do not hold them back.’
                        Bring my sons from afar
                        and my daughters from the ends of the earth—
                        7
                        everyone who is called by my name,
                        whom I created for my glory,
                        whom I formed and made.”

                        8
                        Lead out those who have eyes but are blind,
                        who have ears but are deaf.
                        9
                        All the nations gather together
                        and the peoples assemble.
                        Which of their gods foretold this
                        and proclaimed to us the former things?
                        Let them bring in their witnesses to prove they were right,
                        so that others may hear and say, “It is true.”
                        10
                        You are my witnesses,” declares Y-H-W-H,
                        “and my servant whom I have chosen,
                        so that you may know and believe me
                        and understand that I am he.
                        Before me no god was formed,
                        nor will there be one after me.
                        11
                        I, even I, am Y-H-W-H,
                        and apart from me there is no savior."
                        Isaiah 43


                        “But now listen, Jacob, my servant,
                        Israel, whom I have chosen.
                        2
                        This is what Y-H-W-H says—
                        he who made you, who formed you in the womb,
                        and who will help you:
                        Do not be afraid, Jacob, my servant,
                        Jeshurun,[a] whom I have chosen.
                        3
                        For I will pour water on the thirsty land,
                        and streams on the dry ground;
                        I will pour out my Spirit on your offspring,
                        and my blessing on your descendants.
                        4
                        They will spring up like grass in a meadow,
                        like poplar trees by flowing streams.
                        5
                        Some will say, ‘I belong to Y-H-W-H’;
                        others will call themselves by the name of Jacob;
                        still others will write on their hand, ‘Y-H-W-H’s,’
                        and will take the name Israel.
                        6
                        “This is what Y-H-W-H says—
                        Israel’s King and Redeemer, Y-H-W-H Almighty:
                        I am the first and I am the last;
                        apart from me there is no God.
                        7
                        Who then is like me? Let him proclaim it.
                        Let him declare and lay out before me
                        what has happened since I established my ancient people,
                        and what is yet to come—
                        yes, let them foretell what will come.
                        8
                        Do not tremble, do not be afraid.
                        Did I not proclaim this and foretell it long ago?
                        You are my witnesses. Is there any God besides me?
                        No, there is no other Rock; I know not one.”
                        Isaiah 44



                        "For all people will walk every one in the name of his god, and we will walk in the name of Y-H-W-H our God for ever and ever.".

                        Micah 4:5
                        Please be advised that everywhere in your translation of your OT when it is written "the LORD" with all capitals, then in the original Hebrew it says the four lettered name of God: Y-H-W-H. That name appears almost 7000 times in the Hebrew Bible.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by OCTOBER23 View Post
                          THERE ARE TWO GODS

                          -John 1:1 says there are 2 Gods.

                          - I am getting tired of you guys not reading your bible.

                          - First you say that there are 3 Gods in the Trinity

                          and it shows plainly that the so-called Third person

                          is the MIND of Christ as it states in the Bible.

                          Jesus has a Throne and the Father has a Throne
                          but none for the Comforter

                          The Comforter seems to be GREATER than the Father and Son
                          because you will not be forgiven if you blaspheme it.

                          The Comforter is a Combination of the Father's spirit and
                          the Son's spirit and therefore, if you Blaspheme it ,
                          you are Blaspheming both of them.

                          -----------------------------------------------------------

                          - Then the Jewish guys say that the LORD GOD is One

                          and have NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME.

                          -Jesus said that HE WAS THE LORD GOD OF THE OLD TESTAMENT

                          which the Bible backs up with scriptures in Hebrews 9 as the

                          Testator who changed things by dying.

                          -Jesus said that he came to Reveal God the Father to them.

                          -Jesus Prayed to the Father, the One True God in Heaven
                          while the other God, JESUS was on the Earth.

                          ----------------------------------------------------------------------

                          Therefore, it is obvious that there are only 2 Gods.




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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Crucible View Post




                            Bs"d

                            What part of "God is one" is it that you don't understand?


                            "For all people will walk every one in the name of his god, and we will walk in the name of Y-H-W-H our God for ever and ever.".

                            Micah 4:5
                            Please be advised that everywhere in your translation of your OT when it is written "the LORD" with all capitals, then in the original Hebrew it says the four lettered name of God: Y-H-W-H. That name appears almost 7000 times in the Hebrew Bible.

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                            • #15
                              Man is also ''ONE''........body, soul and spirit.

                              This is the likeness that is mentioned in Genesis. Let Us make man in Our image after Our likeness. The image was in created holiness and the likeness is triune.

                              Man in the likeness of his Maker. Body, soul and spirit and Elohim, Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
                              I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

                              "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

                              I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
                              A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
                              If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

                              Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

                              I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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