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    Rom 5:10

    10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
    Last edited by beloved57; March 27th, 2020, 05:00 AM.
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

  • #2
    Originally posted by beloved57 View Post
    Rom 5:10

    10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

    Those Christ died for / shed His Blood for, according to the will of God, were Reconciled /Saved from the penalty of all the sins they shall ever commit in time; even while being unconverted enemies and unbelievers.
    My soul thirsts for God, the God Who Lives Forever;
    when shall I be brought in to see His Face? - Psalm 42:2

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Nanja View Post


      Those Christ died for / shed His Blood for, according to the will of God, were Reconciled /Saved from the penalty of all the sins they shall ever commit in time; even while being unconverted enemies and unbelievers.
      Amen Sister !
      "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
      preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
      called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
      a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

      Charles Spurgeon !

      Comment


      • #4
        Originally posted by beloved57 View Post
        Rom 5:10

        10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
        By the death of his son
        "And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42

        "Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind" Philippians 2:2

        Pro scripture = Protestant

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        • #5
          Originally posted by oatmeal View Post

          By the death of his son
          Absolutely correct ! Now are all men reconciled to God ? All men without exception ?
          "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
          preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
          called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
          a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

          Charles Spurgeon !

          Comment


          • #6
            Originally posted by beloved57 View Post

            Absolutely correct ! Now are all men reconciled to God ? All men without exception ?
            There are two parties involved in this reconciliation.

            Who are they?

            What is the responsiblity or actions required of each party for this reconciliation to God to take place?
            "And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42

            "Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind" Philippians 2:2

            Pro scripture = Protestant

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            • #7
              Originally posted by oatmeal View Post

              There are two parties involved in this reconciliation.

              Who are they?

              What is the responsiblity or actions required of each party for this reconciliation to God to take place?
              You didnt answer my question. Are all men without exception reconciled to God by the death of His Son ? Simple Yes or No will suffice
              "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
              preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
              called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
              a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

              Charles Spurgeon !

              Comment


              • #8
                Originally posted by beloved57 View Post

                You didnt answer my question. Are all men without exception reconciled to God by the death of His Son ? Simple Yes or No will suffice
                I need clarification from you first.

                Why should I answer a question, that is too vague for me?

                Have all men been saved that God knows will choose to be saved?

                Although it is clearly God's will that all men be saved, it is also clear that not all men have chosen salvation.

                I Timothy 2:4

                Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

                Not all men since the day of Pentecost have done Romans 10:9

                That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

                God gives the gift of salvation, but there must be willing recipients, otherwise, no one receives salvation.

                Can all men do the two requirements of Romans 10:9?
                "And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42

                "Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind" Philippians 2:2

                Pro scripture = Protestant

                Comment


                • #9
                  Originally posted by oatmeal View Post

                  I need clarification from you first.

                  Why should I answer a question, that is too vague for me?

                  Have all men been saved that God knows will choose to be saved?

                  Although it is clearly God's will that all men be saved, it is also clear that not all men have chosen salvation.

                  I Timothy 2:4

                  Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

                  Not all men since the day of Pentecost have done Romans 10:9

                  That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

                  God gives the gift of salvation, but there must be willing recipients, otherwise, no one receives salvation.

                  Can all men do the two requirements of Romans 10:9?
                  Way to dodge, get back with me when you can answer simple question !
                  "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
                  preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
                  called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
                  a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

                  Charles Spurgeon !

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by beloved57 View Post

                    Way to dodge, get back with me when you can answer simple question !
                    Way to dodge, get back with me when you can answer simple questions!

                    "And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42

                    "Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind" Philippians 2:2

                    Pro scripture = Protestant

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by beloved57 View Post

                      Absolutely correct ! Now are all men reconciled to God ? All men without exception ?

                      No they are not ! Reconciliation is Salvation, meaning one has been saved from the penalty of their sins and are in the favour of God.

                      But scripture is clear that all men are not reconciled to God while they are enemies, because many are condemned already and under God's wrath, such as these:


                      John 3:18, 36

                      18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

                      36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.


                      Now men are not condemned because they failed to believe on Christ with their own freewill, but because they were condemned already,
                      and that's why they don't believe on the only begotten Son.


                      So in other words, they must not be condemned already to have the privilege of believing on His Name:

                      John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.


                      My soul thirsts for God, the God Who Lives Forever;
                      when shall I be brought in to see His Face? - Psalm 42:2

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                      • #12
                        [QUOTE=Nanja;n2742239]


                        Last edited by Nanja; March 27th, 2020, 12:17 PM. Reason: dup
                        My soul thirsts for God, the God Who Lives Forever;
                        when shall I be brought in to see His Face? - Psalm 42:2

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by beloved57 View Post

                          Absolutely correct ! Now are all men reconciled to God ? All men without exception ?

                          All who will come to believe in Christ.

                          "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life" (John 3:16).


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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Bradley D View Post


                            All who will come to believe in Christ.

                            "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life" (John 3:16).


                            However... you must remember how that scripture saith that there shall be many that go into the second death Rev. 21:8, simply because
                            their good works, including the believing they performed, were nothing more than a mere work of the flesh which cannot please God.

                            Rom. 8:8-9

                            8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

                            9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.
                            Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.




                            My soul thirsts for God, the God Who Lives Forever;
                            when shall I be brought in to see His Face? - Psalm 42:2

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Bradley D View Post


                              All who will come to believe in Christ.

                              "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life" (John 3:16).

                              Now in Rom 5:10 how were they reconciled to God?
                              "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
                              preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
                              called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
                              a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

                              Charles Spurgeon !

                              Comment

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