William Barr: Religion is Under Attack

[ok doser]

... a government solution ...

aka recognition that the murder of an unborn child is murder

[The Barbarian]

So you are satisfied that there are fewer murders of the unborn these days despite the fact that those murders continue?

I'm pleased that some people are doing something to save the unborn, while others talk about banning abortions and do nothing at all.

You're like the abolitionists who refused to help some slaves escape their captors, because it was impossible to rescue them all.

While you people are posturing, others are out there rescuing, and changing minds. When abortion is ended in this country, it will be because we changed enough minds to make it so.

You can't outlaw sin out of existence; you can only convince people to stop sinning.

[ok doser]

You can't outlaw sin out of existence...

So you're opposed to laws criminalizing child molestation, infanticide, rape ...?

[Jerry Shugart]

While you people are posturing, others are out there rescuing, and changing minds.

Do you really think that Planned Parenthood is trying to change people's minds about abortions?

The progressives are the ones who defeated the bill which would have de-funded Planned Parenthood.

Bet you are proud of those progressives because you support the progressive agenda at every turn.

[ok doser]

You're like the abolitionists who refused to help some slaves escape their captors, because it was impossible to rescue them all.

which action was more effective in ending slavery and freeing slaves?

was it

A. Helping some slaves escape their captors

or

B. Changing the law to make slavery illegal

You can't outlaw sin out of existence; you can only convince people to stop sinning.

Was slavery ended by convincing people to stop sinning?

[The Barbarian]

Do you really think that Planned Parenthood is trying to change people's minds about abortions?

Since pro-life people have succeeded in changing public opinion to the point that a majority of Americans don't approve of abortion, I would expect so. If you claim to be pro-life, you should be happy the rest of us have accomplished that.

If you claim to be pro-life, how about acting pro-life?

[ok doser]

... a majority of Americans don't approve of abortion...

cite?

[Jerry Shugart]

Since pro-life people have succeeded in changing public opinion to the point that a majority of Americans don't approve of abortion, I would expect so. If you claim to be pro-life, you should be happy the rest of us have accomplished that.

If you claim to be pro-life, how about acting pro-life?

What did you do to help to try to slow the killing of the unborn? Support the progressives who defeated the bill to de-fund Planned Parenthood?

Great help!

[ok doser]

... a majority of Americans don't approve of abortion...

cite?

ohhhhh

poor poor barbie

once again caught in a lie

June 7, 2019 Three-quarters of Americans say they want to keep in place the landmark Supreme Court ruling, Roe v. Wade, that made abortion legal in the United States... https://www.npr.org/2019/06/07/73018...t-restrictions

[The Barbarian]

What did you do to help to try to slow the killing of the unborn?

Picketed abortion clinics. Took part in information/discussion events on public property. Informed people I know of the issues. Donated to National Council for Adoption, which offers alternatives to killing the unborn.

What have you done,Jerry?

Aside from assailing pro-life people on TOL? Great help!

[annabenedetti]

Three-quarters of Americans say they want to keep in place the landmark Supreme Court ruling, Roe v. Wade, that made abortion legal in the United States...


https://www.npr.org/2019/06/07/73018...t-restrictions[/box]

That's a lot of Christians...

[Jerry Shugart]

Picketed abortion clinics. Took part in information/discussion events on public property. Informed people I know of the issues. Donated to National Council for Adoption, which offers alternatives to killing the unborn.

Sure. It is impossible for me to believe that from someone who supports the progressives who defeated the bill to de-fund Planned Parenthood.

Were you in favor of de-funding those killers even though you say that you picketed abortion clinics?

[The Barbarian]

Sure. It is impossible for me to believe that from someone who supports the progressives who defeated the bill to de-fund Planned Parenthood.

But you expect us to believe you, who regularly make up stories we know to be false, like that one.

Were you in favor of de-funding those killers even though you say that you picketed abortion clinics?

I oppose any government funding at all for abortion clinics, not just those run by Planned Parenthood. Why do you limit your opposition to one group, Jerry?

[ok doser]

That's a lot of Christians...

Correction - that's a lot of people who identify as Christian

[Jerry Shugart]

I oppose any government funding at all for abortion clinics, not just those run by Planned Parenthood. Why do you limit your opposition to one group, Jerry?

Why do you support the progressives since they are the ones who defeated the bill to defund Planned Parenthood?