Mueller turns up the heat on impeachment

[Town Heretic]

A majority of self-described American voters surveyed in a new INSIDER poll agreed with Republican Rep. Justin Amash that President Donald Trump "committed impeachable offenses."

Among respondents who said they were registered to vote, 54% agreed.

The problem comes when you break that down by party and understanding which party controls the prosecuting body for impeachment.

Amash is the first Republican lawmaker to call for Trump's impeachment based on Robert Mueller's findings in the special counsel's Russia investigation.

We'll see if he's the last. It's hard for me to imagine someone as amoral as Trump not crossing a line, but it's not hard for me to imagine him being smart enough (or hiring smart enough people) to be sure that crossing is undocumented and impossible to prove.

The offense was lying, BTW. Allegedly under oath although the judge in the case didn't think so.

Imagine how many articles of impeachment there would be if democrats thought Trump lying was impeachable...

It wasn't just lying though, but under oath. That's how they justified it. You need a criminal act with evidence. We'll see how it all shakes out. I still suspect the ballot box will be the determiner, but after the S.Ct. fiasco, you can understand why.

 

[Stripe]

The S.Ct. fiasco.

You mean the time when half the US went nuts and falsely accused a nominee of rape because they hate donaldtrump?

That fiasco?

 

[ok doser]

Wait - trump put a rapist on the supreme court?

Surely that is worthy of impeachment, um?

 

[Stripe]

Democracy is stupid.

 

[ok doser]

Unfortunately, democracy doesn't have enough qualifying requirements for participation

In particular, it makes no effort to exclude the stupid

 

[Stripe]

Unfortunately, democracy doesn't have enough qualifying requirements for participationIn particular, it makes no effort to exclude the stupid

There should be a test in Latin and a bare-knuckle fight to survive before voting.

 

[jamesdyson]

Wait - trump put a rapist on the supreme court?

Surely that is worthy of impeachment, um?

Trump has created so many violations that one can get confused on which one's are the worst and then giving up on picking out the worst, they then give up and say nothing.

 

[Stripe]

Trump has created so many violations that one can get confused on which one's are the worst and then giving up on picking out the worst, they then give up and say nothing.

:rotfl:

 

[ok doser]

Trump has created so many violations that one can get confused on which one's are the worst and then giving up on picking out the worst, they then give up and say nothing.

Ok, that's an interesting theory to explain the ineptitude of the left - they're easily confused

Got anything else?

 

[Town Heretic]

You mean the time when half the US went nuts and falsely accused a nominee of rape because they hate donaldtrump?

That fiasco?

No, the one where a nominee I supported went before Congress and demonstrated a temperament unsuited to the bench, but got the job anyway. That fiasco.

Democracy is stupid.

Only if you confuse that statement with the definition of democracy. lain:

 

[annabenedetti]

Trump has created so many violations that one can get confused on which one's are the worst and then giving up on picking out the worst, they then give up and say nothing.

Overwhelm the system, manufacture a crisis: Cloward-Piven.

I've said here before that the right has co-opted for its own use tactics it used to bleat warnings about, like Alinsky and Cloward-Piven. Given that I'd been warned by conservatives many times over the years about both, it's been interesting to see those familiar ideas being used repeatedly now by the right. So after reading your postI started doing a little searching and happened by? Something from American Thinker going back over ten years ago, when the right was suffering from the Acute Obama Apoplexies:

. . . And this is where I have to sing the praises of Alinsky and Cloward-Piven. They have given us a way to "spike their wheels." . . . .
Thanks Saul Alinsky, and Doctors Cloward and Piven. Even if it's not the change the two of you hoped for, we might just see if your ideas really work.

[h=1]Praising Saul Alinsky and Cloward-Piven[/h]Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis


So anytime the right brings up Alinsky or manufactured crisis in future, I'm just gonna laugh.... :chuckle:

 

[ok doser]

Overwhelm the system, manufacture a crisis: Cloward-Piven.

I've said here before that the right has co-opted for its own use tactics it used to bleat warnings about, like Alinsky and Cloward-Piven. Given that I'd been warned by conservatives many times over the years about both, it's been interesting to see those familiar ideas being used repeatedly now by the right. So after reading your postI started doing a little searching and happened by? Something from American Thinker going back over ten years ago, when the right was suffering from the Acute Obama Apoplexies:

[FONT=&]. . . And this is where I have to sing the praises of Alinsky and Cloward-Piven. They have given us a way to "spike their wheels." [FONT=&]. . . . [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=&]Thanks Saul Alinsky, and Doctors Cloward and Piven. Even if it's not the change the two of you hoped for, we might just see if your ideas really work.

[/FONT][h=1]Praising Saul Alinsky and Cloward-Piven[/h][FONT=&]Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis

[/FONT]
So anytime the right brings up Alinsky or manufactured crisis in future, I'm just gonna laugh.... :chuckle:

So that's why the left has been so ineffective in impeaching trump - because the right used their tactics against them effectively?


You're right - that is hilarious! :darwinsm:

 

[jamesdyson]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jul/20/arron-banks-netflix-threat-great-hack-documentary
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[jamesdyson]

ok doser , It is interesting that---
the number# of your post is--
Actually the first post you
have ever read.?

Cooinsidence or what-?
just asking -

 

[jamesdyson]

So that's why the left has been so ineffective in impeaching trump - because the right used their tactics against them effectively?
You're right - that is hilarious! :darwinsm:

there is nothing funny about death -

 

[jamesdyson]

"There should be a test in Latin and a bare-knuckle fight to survive before voting."

I'll take trump on bloindfolded

Just to give Trump an even chance

 

[jamesdyson]

You mean the time when half the US went nuts and falsely accused a nominee of rape because they hate donaldtrump?

That fiasco?
..,.,.,..You mean the time when half the US went nuts and falsely accused a nominee of rape because they hate donaldtrump?

That fiasco?
looking back; yes, half or more were duppted to do mda trunmop

 

[jamesdyson]

There are less than 40 million people living in Iraq. Where did you get your number for deaths in the war?

the echo of the sound of death--
never ending until death is no more -

 

[jamesdyson]

So that's why the left has been so ineffective in impeaching trump - because the right used their tactics against them effectively?


You're right - that is hilarious! :darwinsm:

So that's why the left has been so ineffective in impeaching trump - because the right used their tactics against them effectively?


You're right - that is hilarious!
above not my ewordes -

 

[Stripe]

No, the one where a nominee I supported went before Congress and demonstrated a temperament unsuited to the bench, but got the job anyway. That fiasco.

:rotfl:

So you don't care that multiple people accused him falsely and half the nation, including a blanket denouncement by one party, just went along with it.

You're going with "temperament"? :rotfl:

Fine. I think his temperament was not strident enough. He should have told his accusers to go to hell and walked out. That would have been worthy of a seat on something calling itself a "supreme" court.