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  • Ktoyou
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    Originally posted by The Berean View Post
    Well that sure was disappointing. The 49ers had their chances but didn't capitalize. The Chiefs did. I'm happy for the Chiefs for ending a 50 year Super Bowl title drought.
    I tough the game was good. I cheered for both teams; the Chiefs came on strong at the end. The halftime stunk!

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  • The Berean
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    Originally posted by ok doser View Post


    So what's next for the halftime show?


    Full nudity?

    Live sex shows?
    That show was terrible. Two grandmother aged women trying to act young and desperately trying to stay relevant. It was pitiful.
    Last edited by The Berean; February 3, 2020, 03:02 PM.

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  • ok doser
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    Originally posted by The Berean View Post
    Well that sure was disappointing. The 49ers had their chances but didn't capitalize. The Chiefs did. I'm happy for the Chiefs for ending a 50 year Super Bowl title drought.

    So what's next for the halftime show?


    Full nudity?

    Live sex shows?

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  • The Berean
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    Well that sure was disappointing. The 49ers had their chances but didn't capitalize. The Chiefs did. I'm happy for the Chiefs for ending a 50 year Super Bowl title drought.

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  • Town Heretic
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    I had it in the 20s for both teams because I thought SF would do what it did for three quarters. Then the Chiefs did in the 4th quarter what they'd done to the Texans in the 2nd and the Niners couldn't rally. The running game by committee broke down just enough in that last quarter and the Chiefs' offense sparked enough to shift the burden to Garoppolo, and he wasn't ready.

    To be fair, Mahomes didn't look ready for most of the game. So I'd give my mvp to the Chiefs' defense. I think they were the difference when it really mattered, that their offense got their spark from the defensive play that put them in a put up or shut up window of opportunity.

    I suspect Mahomes won't have a jittery performance again on that stage. But I also believe SF won't fall back, as so many teams do. They worked wonders while still needing offensive pieces. The future looks bright and competitive for both teams, though neither will have an easy road back given the competition that's out there and will be coming as well.

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  • tetelestai
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    My Super Bowl prediction:

    Kansas City - 48
    San Francisco- 17

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  • The Berean
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    Originally posted by tetelestai View Post

    What about the 1989 49'ers? Jerry Rice and Montana were amazing together.

    They were 14-2. Their two loses were by a combined 5 points.

    Moreover, they destroyed their opponents in the postseason:

    Divisional Game - they beat the Vikings 41-13

    Championship Game - They beat the Rams 30-3

    Super Bowl - They beat the Broncos 55-10

    They outscored their opponents in the postseason 126 - 26 (in 3 games) That's way more impressive than +249 over 16 games.
    The 1989 team is certainly a contender for greatest 49er team.

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  • tetelestai
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    Originally posted by Town Heretic View Post
    Too many unknowns.
    Don't rule out the coaches.

    Andy Reid is the Marty Schottenheimer of the day (can't win the big game), and Kyle Shanahan was the offensive coordinator of the greatest collapse in Super Bowl history.

    It will be interesting so see which coach will prevail. By default, one of them has to win.

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  • Town Heretic
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    Originally posted by The Berean View Post
    This isn't really a fair comparison.
    I'm not really comparing teams though, mostly wondering if he'll have the same problem, running into the teeth of serious defensive pressure.

    Marino went up against the greatest 49er team ever and one of the greatest NFL teams in history. Mahomes isn't facing a team of that caliber, Though this 49ers team is quite strong.
    I'm not really suggesting this Niners team is ready to claim a spot atop that pantheon. I'm just wondering how Mahomes will respond to the strongest defense he's played this year, specifically to the pressure they're going to bring. In that sense he's in Dan's shoes.

    If these 49ers can win the Super Bowl I'd be comfortable to to rank them among the top 8-10 best 49er teams of all time.
    Again, it's more about defense with me. I'm certainly not suggesting this offense is in the zip code of that 84 Niners team. And that's the largest part of the disparity.

    Defensively? The Niners gave up 1,795 that year rushing (7th best in the league by yards, tied for 2nd in rushing tds allowed) and 3,381 passing (21st in yards, but 1st in fewest tds allowed).

    This year? The Niners are 1st against passing yards allowed (2,707) 16th in tds, and 16th in rushing yards allowed (1,802) but 8th in tds. So he'll have an easier time of it, to be sure...which is part of the reason I'm still mulling.



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  • Town Heretic
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    Originally posted by tetelestai View Post
    Im predicting Kansas City in a blowout.
    I suppose it's possible, but I can't see it as likely.

    This 49'ers team has squeaked out a lot of wins this year.
    They blew up the Bucs, Bengals, Browns...the weaker teams. Destroyed the Panthers.

    They barley beat the Steelers at home with Mason Rudolf at QB for the Steelers.
    The Steelers coaching was magnificent this year and that win was more about Jimmy having a bad early game. One td to two picks.

    They barley beat the Seahawks, Cardinals, Rams, and Saints down the stretch, while losing to the Ravens and Falcons
    The Seahawks were a playoff team this year and they lost in overtime. Tough game. Then the Niners went to Seattle and beat them there bymore than they'd lost. The Rams? Weird year for a team with a lot of talent. And the Saints were in the hunt for the division crown. None of those losses is something to hang head about. The Falcons came to life for a stretch and scared everyone, if a little late. And the Ravens were the favorite of many to reach the Super Bowl.

    KC didn't exactly light up the better teams on their season schedule either. A four point win over the Lions? Tough contests against the Chargers...I suspect this one will more closely resemble their win over the Vikings, if they're on the winning side. If they lose it will be because the Niners keep Mahomes off the field by slowing the game pace, using Jimmy as a game manager and largely run the ball while putting serious pressure on the Chiefs signal caller, who (as with any young qb and most who aren't so young) can be rattled by it.

    However, they were dominant in the postseason against the Vikings & Packers, but I predict KC will win by at least 13 points.
    Still mulling. The Packers were the least praised team entering the playoffs, with a lot of people figuring them for a quick hook. They just didn't really beat many good teams in route to that record. The Vikings? A really good overall team, but the closest thing they have to a signature win during the regular season was beating Dallas...so, not sure either team was particularly indicative.

    Too many unknowns. The Chiefs are good at stopping teams from scoring, but not great at stopping them from moving the ball. I think they were 26th in terms of yards allowed rushing. That's troubling given the obvious game plan the Niners should advance. If they can keep moving the chains and get a couple of stops using pressure, they stand a good chance of winning a low scoring contest...by which I mean, again, something like the Vikings game, mid to low 20s.

    If KC can get going early and get any sort of a lead, its over.

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  • tetelestai
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    Originally posted by The Berean View Post
    The 1984 49ers had a +249 point differential, the best in franchise history.
    What about the 1989 49'ers? Jerry Rice and Montana were amazing together.

    They were 14-2. Their two loses were by a combined 5 points.

    Moreover, they destroyed their opponents in the postseason:

    Divisional Game - they beat the Vikings 41-13

    Championship Game - They beat the Rams 30-3

    Super Bowl - They beat the Broncos 55-10

    They outscored their opponents in the postseason 126 - 26 (in 3 games) That's way more impressive than +249 over 16 games.

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  • The Berean
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    Originally posted by tetelestai View Post

    Jerry Rice wasn't on that 1984 team.

    How can the greatest 49'ers team ever not have Jerry Rice on it?
    The 1984 49ers had a +249 point differential, the best in franchise history. The 1994 team with Jerry Rice and Steve Young was awesome. But I think the 1984 team was a tad better.


    BTW, the lone loss by that 49'ers team was against the Steelers.....lol
    Yes, I know the 49ers lose to the Steelers 20-17 on a Bryan Hinkle interception late in the game that sealed the game for the Steelers. LOL

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  • The Berean
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    Originally posted by tetelestai View Post
    Im predicting Kansas City in a blowout.

    This 49'ers team has squeaked out a lot of wins this year. They barley beat the Steelers at home with Mason Rudolf at QB for the Steelers. They barley beat the Seahawks, Cardinals, Rams, and Saints down the stretch, while losing to the Ravens and Falcons

    However, they were dominant in the postseason against the Vikings & Packers, but I predict KC will win by at least 13 points.
    The 49ers had three losses this season. They lost all three games by three points literally on the final play of each game. They lost to the Ravens on the road. They could have easily won that game. They crushed the Packers twice. The 49ers may lose but they will not get blown out.

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  • tetelestai
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    Teams that have finished 15-1

    1984 - 49'ers
    1985 - Bears
    1998 - Vikings
    2004 - Steelers
    2011 - Packers
    2015 - Panthers

    ****Patriots finished 16-0 in 2007

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  • tetelestai
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    Originally posted by The Berean View Post
    Marino went up against the greatest 49er team ever and one of the greatest NFL teams in history.
    Jerry Rice wasn't on that 1984 team.

    How can the greatest 49'ers team ever not have Jerry Rice on it?

    BTW, the lone loss by that 49'ers team was against the Steelers.....lol

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