chrysostom

chrysostom

chrysostom

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so who do you trust?
A Crisis in the Church
that you can't ignore. All you have is the TESTIMONY of Vigano and Sex, Lies & Viganò Takes from the opposition. You be the judge. You will be judged on what you do about it. It is time to fight for your Church as if your salvation depended on it.
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money is the key
A Crisis in the Church
that you can't ignore. You don't get to vote for them. They will not listen to you. All they care about is the money. Your money. It is the only leverage that you have. You have to support your local church but how do you do that without supporting the bishops? You figure it out.
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let the children come
A Crisis in the Church
that you can't ignore. Jesus wants the children and He wants them protected. The child must be protected. Life, marriage, the family, and the Church must be protected. Abortion, divorce, and anything that threatens the family must be resisted but only if you believe in the Christian God and only if you want to be saved.
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climate change
A Crisis in the Church
that you can't ignore. The bishops want to talk about climate change. Not about abortion. Not about homosexual priests or the sanctity of marriage. Their views are closely aligned with the Democratic Party that not only supports but also celebrates late term abortion. Could it be that abortion and homosexual activity are both disordered? How can you trust men like this to protect the Church, marriage, and the child? You can't. It is time for fight for the Church. Only the laity can fix this.
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chrysostom said:
climate change
A Crisis in the Church
that you can't ignore. The bishops want to talk about climate change. Not about abortion. Not about homosexual priests or the sanctity of marriage. Their views are closely aligned with the Democratic Party that not only supports but also celebrates late term abortion. Could it be that abortion and homosexual activity are both disordered? How can you trust men like this to protect the Church, marriage, and the child? You can't. It is time for fight for the Church. Only the laity can fix this.
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How can the laity fix an institution run by ordained men?
 
chrysostom

chrysostom

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to hell with the people
A Crisis in the Church
that you can't ignore. Save the Church. It may be the only way to save yourself. The Church can't save you but you can save yourself by working with others to save the Church. Only the Church has held the line on abortion and marriage. Only the Church is protecting the child. The future of society depends on this. We have to save the Church.
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chrysostom

chrysostom

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let's make a deal
A Crisis in the Church
that you can't ignore. It's no secret that the media and the Democratic Party are happy to hear the pope and the bishops talk about climate change and immigration. Not so much with the homosexual element of child abuse, the life of a child before being born, or the sanctity of marriage between one man and one women. Is that a deal or what?
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annabenedetti

annabenedetti

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chrysostom said:
lIt's no secret that the media and the Democratic Party are happy to hear the pope and the bishops talk about climate change and immigration.
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As he should, and as they should be.

Not so much with the homosexual element of child abuse
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The vast majority of child abuse is committed by heterosexuals.

the life of a child before being born
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70% of women obtaining abortions identify as Christian.

or the sanctity of marriage between one man and one women
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Marriage is between the two adults involved. The Church witnesses it, but it's carried out by the couple.


I agree a sound, healthy, happy, consistent (even predictable) family unit is very important to the safety and well-being of children, but what constitutes a family unit? You don't want two husbands or two wives, I get that. But husband+wife isn't a guarantee of a child's safety and well-being; the non-stop 'traditional' parental inflictions of physical, mental, and/or sexual abuse, emotional and/or physical neglect, or all of these and murder besides - tell us we can't accept it as guarantee.

It's just not that cut and dried. I know you want it to be, but it never has been.
 
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