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  • Why men should not discuss rape.

    1. They are men.
    2. Most men have neither raped nor been a rape victim.
    3. Men think no means not now.

  • #2
    define "rape"

    be as specific as possible

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    • #3
      Originally posted by resurrected View Post
      define "rape"

      be as specific as possible
      It would excite you too much.

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      • #4
        well, based on some of the "definitions" i've seen given, i am a rapist

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Eeset View Post
          1. They are men.
          2. Most men have neither raped nor been a rape victim.
          3. Men think no means not now.
          Men's participation is the discussion of rape exposes quite a lot about a man's character.
          A man you can bait with a tweet is not a man
          we can trust with nuclear weapons.

          Bill Clinton






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          • #6
            Originally posted by Eeset View Post
            1. They are men.
            2. Most men have neither raped nor been a rape victim.
            3. Men think no means not now.
            Are you being serious?
            "It is easier to contend with evil at the first than at the last." - Leonardo da Vinci

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Rusha View Post
              Men's participation is the discussion of rape exposes quite a lot about a man's character.
              Often much more than they realize.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Eeset View Post
                1. They are men.
                2. Most men have neither raped nor been a rape victim.
                3. Men think no means not now.
                Why women should not discuss alien abductions.

                1. They are women.

                2. Most women have neither abducted, nor been an abduction victim.

                3. Women think, "Light years...Beam me out," means, "I need another shot of Jim Beam, as time is running out...last call."
                Saint John W

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Rusha View Post
                  Men's participation is the discussion of rape exposes quite a lot about a man's character.
                  I tend to agree. Eesets on ignore, but I saw her points reflected and want to address them...

                  Originally posted by Eeset

                  1. They are men.
                  Sad notion. Someone I loved was raped. The damage of that spread out across a number of people, male and female. It was the most helpless, painful sort of feeling, wanting to comfort and being keenly aware that my gender was in some part a bar to that, watching the loneliness of that process of healing...just horrible.

                  2. Most men have neither raped nor been a rape victim.
                  A rapists opinion would be welcomed in any event? God forbid. And you don't have to have been raped to have empathy, compassion or to have been harmed by that particular violation.

                  3. Men think no means not now.
                  That makes me feel really good about having Eeset on ignore. It's a trivial, off handed and horrifically inappropriate one-off or worse, evidence of a profoundly ignorant mindset. Either way, while I felt obliged to set this out I'm glad I won't have to read whatever drivel she might post to answer it.
                  You aren't what you eat, but you're always what you swallow.

                  Pro-Life






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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Eeset View Post
                    Often much more than they realize.
                    Women should not discuss "The Three Stooges."

                    1. They are women.

                    2. Most women have neither poked someone in the eye, or been poked in the eye, have never given a "Larry Fein" haircut, or been the victim of a "Larry Fein" haircut.

                    3. Women think, "Calling Dr, Moe, Dr. Howard, Dr. Larry,"means "General Hospital" is on.
                    Saint John W

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by elohiym View Post
                      Are you being serious?
                      It would honestly depend on the man discussing the issue. For those who use phrases such as *legitimate rape* and talk about "well she shouldn't have been wearing" then I would agree.

                      In most instances, it's something a man will not experience even though they may certainly empathize. Anyone who is incapable of understanding the nature and devastation of rape really has nothing constructive to offer a rape victim.

                      In the same way that some husbands are welcome to participate in the birth of their child, there will always be the insensitive cretin who will say "oh what a big whiner you are".

                      The best standard to use towards someone who has no desire to help or comfort a rape victim is to tell them to stay away. Their input would be harmful.
                      A man you can bait with a tweet is not a man
                      we can trust with nuclear weapons.

                      Bill Clinton






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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Town Heretic View Post

                        That makes me feel really good about having Eeset on ignore. It's a trivial, off handed and horrifically inappropriate one-off or worse, evidence of a profoundly ignorant mindset. Either way, while I felt obliged to set this out I'm glad I won't have to read whatever drivel she might post to answer it.
                        Actually Eeset is right, a good many men think no means not now and that no really means yes.
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                        • #13
                          It's a serious problem.

                          Never blame the victim.

                          Empathize, and seek justice.




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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Angel4Truth View Post
                            Actually Eeset is right, a good many men think no means not now and that no really means yes.
                            We can be an obtuse lot, us men, but I don't think that discouraging us from talking about it is likely to be anything other than counterproductive. Even the "legitimate rape" type comments need to be discussed openly if they exist as thoughts behind male eyeballs so that they can be refuted.
                            Global warming denialists are like gravity denialists piloting a helicopter, determined to prove a point. We may not have time to actually persuade them of their mistake.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Angel4Truth View Post
                              Actually Eeset is right, a good many men think no means not now and that no really means yes.
                              no often does mean yes

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