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  • Real Science Friday: Human & Dino Footprints are Real

    RSF: Human & Dino Footprints are Real

    This is the show from Friday March 25th, 2011.

    SUMMARY:



    * Lengthy Dinosaur and Human Footprint Trails
    : Real Science Friday host Bob Enyart concludes that the leading biblical creation ministries should once again acknowledge the validity of the contemporaneous human and dinosaur footprint fossils. The scientist who debunked the claimed 2010 sighting of Noah's Ark, Dr. Don Patton, talks to Bob Enyart about his work excavating the longest dinosaur footprint tracks in North America, and about the human foot prints in and around those dinosaur prints! See the footprints at bible.ca/tracks.



    * Dr. Patton Helped Excavate the Pool of Siloam: This geologist and archaeological excavator has worked professionally in more than a dozen countries and helped excavate the historically and biblically important Pool of Siloam in Jerusalem (which discovery tied into a major debate that Bob Enyart was involved in at the time).

    Today’s Resource: Get a science DVD, book, or written, audio or video debate from us and this will help BEL continue to reach people with our Real Science Friday broadcasts! Have you browsed through our Science Department in the KGOV Store? Check out the DVD What You Aren't Being Told About Astronomy and Walt Brown’s great hardcover book In the Beginning! You’ll also love Dr. Guillermo Gonzalez’ Privileged Planet (clip), and Illustra Media’s Unlocking the Mystery of Life (clip)! You can consider our BEL Science Pack; Bob Enyart’s Age of the Earth Debate; Bob's debate about Junk DNA with famous evolutionist Dr. Eugenie Scott; and the superb kids' radio programming, Jonathan Park: The Adventure Begins! And Bob strongly recommends that you subscribe to CMI’s tremendous Creation magazine and Ken Ham's Answers magazine!  Or to order call BEL at 1-800-8Enyart.

    * Special Editions of Real Science Friday:
    - BEL's famous List of Not-So-Old Things
    - Bob's debate with Christian Darwinist British author James Hannam
    - PZ Myers blogs against Real Science Friday so we hit back with the PZ Trochlea Challenge
    - Waiting for Darwin's Other Shoe: Science mag cover: Darwin Was Wrong on the Tree of Life
    - Microbiologist in Studio: Creation Research Society Quarterly editor on new genetic findings
    - Caterpillar Kills Atheism: describe how a bug could evolve to liquefy itself and then build itself into a flying creature
    - And see the RSF Offer of $2,000 to get 16 letters of the alphabet in their correct places; $500 paid in 1998; $1,500 in 2010...

    For our RSF Friends: in case you miss other BEL programs, here are some of the atheists Bob Enyart has debated:
    - ABC's Reginald Finley, called The Infidel Guy, from ABC's Wife Swap program; 3-26-07;
    - TheologyOnLine's psychologist Zakath in a 10-round moderated written online debate, also available in soft cover;
    - John Henderson who wrote the book God.com 6-15-2006;
    - Leading anti-creationist Eugenie Scott of the Nat'l Center for Science Education, exhumed 5-6-05;
    - Michael Shermer, an editor with Scientific American and the Skeptic Society who in this famous 73-second excerpt on BEL denied that the sun is a light, illustrating that it's tough debating atheists when they're hesitant to admit to even the most obvious common ground. 8-28-03
    WARNING: Graphic video here.

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    Went to the link (bible.ca/tracks.) but was not able to see any human foot prints or read anything about them being found in that article?
    Do not go gentile into that good night. D.Thomas

    Out, Out, Brief Candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, That struts and frets his hour upon the stage, And then is heard no more, It is a tale told by an idiot, Full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing. W.S.

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    • #3
      Lightbringer's search skills.

      Where is the evidence for a global flood?
      E≈mc2
      "the best maths don't need no stinkin' numbers"

      "The waters under the 'expanse' were under the crust."
      -Bob B.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Stripe View Post
        Lightbringer's search skills.

        Always liked your methods Stripe.... how about you or jefferson posting the specific photo...I read the article and it didn't mention any human foot prints..it didn't show any specific photos of the human footprint as it did the Dinosaur prints.
        Do not go gentile into that good night. D.Thomas

        Out, Out, Brief Candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, That struts and frets his hour upon the stage, And then is heard no more, It is a tale told by an idiot, Full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing. W.S.

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        • #5
          http://www.bible.ca/tracks/welcome.htm

          this should take you to the index or menu picture or whatever it is called
          Marge: "Aren't you going to give him the last rites?"
          Rev. Lovejoy: "That's Catholic, Marge - you might as well ask me to do a voodoo dance."



          "Oh bother" said Pooh, as he chambered the next round.

          Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. - Benjamin Franklin

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Vaquero45 View Post
            http://www.bible.ca/tracks/welcome.htm

            this should take you to the index or menu picture or whatever it is called
            Thank you sir for the assistance!
            Do not go gentile into that good night. D.Thomas

            Out, Out, Brief Candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, That struts and frets his hour upon the stage, And then is heard no more, It is a tale told by an idiot, Full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing. W.S.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Vaquero45 View Post
              http://www.bible.ca/tracks/welcome.htm

              this should take you to the index or menu picture or whatever it is called


              Yeah . . . THAT doesn't look carved. Whoever did it apparently used a plastic dinosaur model as what they thought a dinosaur print looks like. (Not to mention the overall weirdness of the human print being at the same depth and also nearly flat)

              Here's a real one . . .



              Here's a Detailed critique of the fake

              Seriously, you guys need to actually analyze and look at "evidence" you're choosing to use rather than taking anything that looks like it supports your position as 100% accurate.
              Last edited by Alate_One; March 27th, 2011, 11:27 AM.
              “We do not believe in God because we need to explain this or that feature of the world. That is what science is for. We believe in God because we see something deeper in the world, something that transcends the scientific explanations.” - Karl Giberson Ph.D.



              - The science and faith of theistic evolution explained.

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              • #8
                Great show! I hope AIG catches up.

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                • #9
                  Slice 139 shows that the depth of the human toe to be proximately 3/4 that of the Dinosaur?

                  Does this indicate an extremely heavy human or and extremely light weight Dinosaur?

                  Has any forensic organization done a reconstruction on the human imprint to show the approximate size of the human?

                  Has any organization identified what Dinosaur this print came from, and done a reconstruction of the Dinosaur to show its approximate size?

                  Why didn't the original article mention a human imprint?

                  I would need a lot more information before making a decision on this.
                  Do not go gentile into that good night. D.Thomas

                  Out, Out, Brief Candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, That struts and frets his hour upon the stage, And then is heard no more, It is a tale told by an idiot, Full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing. W.S.

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                  • #10
                    By the way I've been to the Paluxy River and stood in its dinosaur tracks many times.

                    I just love this human-footprints-with-dinosaurs business, because it so clearly helps us separate the merely misinformed creationists from the hopelessly stupid and truly insane ones. And with this fossil linked above, the dishonest ones as well.

                    Some of the actual footprints that the creationists say look like human prints are 24 to 30 inches long. So does Dr Carl Baugh claim that even these are human prints? Why yes, as a matter of fact, he does. You see, in the olden days, the atmosphere had way more oxygen so humans grew to giant size. He even has a big chamber at his "museum" outside of Glen Rose, to try to show how high pressure and oxygen content can result in giant organisms.

                    He actually believes that humans grew so big that their feet were as long as my coffee table! Tell me that's not a sign of insanity.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Alate_One View Post


                      Yeah . . . THAT doesn't look carved. Whoever did it apparently used a plastic dinosaur model as what they thought a dinosaur print looks like. (Not to mention the overall weirdness of the human print being at the same depth and also nearly flat)

                      Here's a real one . . .


                      Here's a Detailed critique of the fake

                      Seriously, you guys need to actually analyze and look at "evidence" you're choosing to use rather than taking anything that looks like it supports your position as 100% accurate.

                      Also note how short the stride length is for footprints of that magnitude. The length looks human. Obvious fakes.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Frayed Knot View Post
                        Some of the actual footprints that the creationists say look like human prints are 24 to 30 inches long.
                        Do you have the reference on these 24 inch long prints? I'm not doubting you, I'd just like to read about them.
                        Good things come to those who shoot straight.

                        Did you only want evidence you are not going to call "wrong"? -Stripe

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                        • #13
                          Honest creationists will never receive a fair hearing as long as shenanigans such as this continue.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Yorzhik View Post
                            Do you have the reference on these 24 inch long prints? I'm not doubting you, I'd just like to read about them.
                            I think he's referring to these.

                            “We do not believe in God because we need to explain this or that feature of the world. That is what science is for. We believe in God because we see something deeper in the world, something that transcends the scientific explanations.” - Karl Giberson Ph.D.



                            - The science and faith of theistic evolution explained.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Frayed Knot View Post

                              Some of the actual footprints that the creationists say look like human prints are 24 to 30 inches long. So does Dr Carl Baugh claim that even these are human prints? Why yes, as a matter of fact, he does. You see, in the olden days, the atmosphere had way more oxygen so humans grew to giant size. He even has a big chamber at his "museum" outside of Glen Rose, to try to show how high pressure and oxygen content can result in giant organisms.
                              Except for a minor thing, humans are basically designed to breath air that has a partial pressure of oxygen at 0.21 Bar...as the partial pressure of oxygen goes up, Oxygen Toxicity starts at the lower levels of 0.30.

                              High pressure and oxygen content over 0.30 Bars will cause, at the lower levels, a human to be dazed, show lip twitching, vertigo, diaphragm spasms and sever nausea at 6 minutes and will become worse with more time or higher partial pressures of oxygen leading eventually to death!
                              Do not go gentile into that good night. D.Thomas

                              Out, Out, Brief Candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, That struts and frets his hour upon the stage, And then is heard no more, It is a tale told by an idiot, Full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing. W.S.

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