everready
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Jesus spoke his creation into existence just as surely and as quickly as he spoke and Lazarus came forth.
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everready
Creation vs. Evolution
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Jesus spoke his creation into existence just as surely and as quickly as he spoke and Lazarus came forth.
Give God the Glory He Deserves
everready
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Have they hired someone else to replace you yet? I can send them my resume.
Dear Jose,
Are you being serious here? That is excellent! I'm in shock from reading your declaration and testimony. It is wonderful that you've realized that God is right. It will not go unnoticed. You will notice God in your life immediately as long as you are on the up and up. Your whole life will change and your new life begins now. My prayers will be with you and when I pray on my knees at night before bedtime, I will say a prayer especially for you. Just tonight now. That will be all it takes. I pray for everyone on TOL every night. You are my family here. We are all brothers and sisters descended from Noah and his wife. We're all related, but look at how some fight so terribly. It's really a shame. Well, Jose Fly, I am extremely proud of you. It takes tons of guts to comment as you have. You won't regret it. I'm sure God will see to that. Now, just ask Jesus to come into your heart and then you'll notice even more of a difference. Buena Suerte {Good Luck}. I love you, in Christ!!
May God Pour Out Many Blessings Into Your Life,
Michael
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I was going to ask "Are you really that gullible?", but then I realized who I would be asking. It is a joke. It oozes with absurdities and facetiousness.
Dear The Barbarian,
You're right. We can agree to disagree. Whether it is a salvation issue or not, I cannot say. I will write more in my next post!! This is a brief answer. Thanks, B!
May God Always Be With You,
Michael
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Dear alwight,
An excellent video, thank you!! But God is no wizard and speaks against them in the Bible. I can look it up if you want me to. Thanks for that post. I always loved that show.
God Bless You And Keep You Joyful!!
Michael
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Dear everready,
I am shocked by the things that come out of the Pope's mouth. Looks like he's sold out. He's not the brightest candle in the bag? He will please someone, but I'm not so sure it will be God or Jesus. I guess this is his way of moving the Catholic Church forward. Let's play Bingo. That is the same as selling animals in the Church courtyard. You know, like when Jesus overturned the moneychangers tables in the Temple? Whether selling doves or playing Bingo, it's the same thing. Bingo doesn't belong in Church. That is the place where you worship God, not for games and gambling. Don't all of you know this?? I mean, in general, to others. Not to everready.
God Bless You Tons, everready,
Michael
Dear Jonahdog,
For your first sentence, God created every creature, not allowing it to evolve, but to be plentiful and multiply. We don't need 6 day creation to show us God's power. We have God parting the Red Sea, Jesus walking on water, Jesus bringing back Lazarus from being dead to being alive, etc. It goes on and on. So to quote you, "Without that, your God has none?" Now you know. I could go on a long time Jonahdog. Why don't you just hop on the right side and be rid of treading your dangerous tightrope as if your Eternal Life does matter. In other words, you're on shaky ground and you'd better hop on the side that's winning while you can!! If you look around and see the big mess the U.S. and world is in, then certainly you can identify with the fact that His Presence is forthcoming.
Jump On The Peace Train, Jonahdog!! What have you got to lose?!!
Michael
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Barbarian observes:
Nope. For example, the earth brought forth life. God created the world and then things came forth from previously created things to make the world we see today. He created it to do that.
Here, I'll show it to you.
Genesis 1:24 And God said: Let the earth bring forth the living creature in its kind, cattle and creeping things, and beasts of the earth, according to their kinds. And it was so done. [25] And God made the beasts of the earth according to their kinds, and cattle, and every thing that creepeth on the earth after its kind.
As you see, it totally rules out the life ex nihilo beliefs of YE creationism. And it clearly shows that God created life from non-living matter, using nature. Why wouldn't He? Remember, He's God, not some little middle eastern nature deity. You guys are uncomfortable with a God that great.
And now, you know better.
Barbarian asks:
So Genesis 1 is literal, and Genesis 2 is only figurative?
Sounds like your cafeteria Christianity kicking in, again. You want it to be literal where it fits your needs, and not literal where it doesn't.
No. It's the word of God about Him, and us, and our relationship. Trying to demote it to a history book is borderline blasphemous.
The Book of Documents. Ancient writers often used figurative language for very early times. But of course, Genesis is God's word, not man's history book.
Nope. For example, the earth brought forth life. God created the world and then things came forth from previously created things to make the world we see today. He created it to do that.
Here, I'll show it to you.
Genesis 1:24 And God said: Let the earth bring forth the living creature in its kind, cattle and creeping things, and beasts of the earth, according to their kinds. And it was so done. [25] And God made the beasts of the earth according to their kinds, and cattle, and every thing that creepeth on the earth after its kind.
As you see, it totally rules out the life ex nihilo beliefs of YE creationism. And it clearly shows that God created life from non-living matter, using nature. Why wouldn't He? Remember, He's God, not some little middle eastern nature deity. You guys are uncomfortable with a God that great.
And now, you know better.
Barbarian asks:
So Genesis 1 is literal, and Genesis 2 is only figurative?
Sounds like your cafeteria Christianity kicking in, again. You want it to be literal where it fits your needs, and not literal where it doesn't.
No. It's the word of God about Him, and us, and our relationship. Trying to demote it to a history book is borderline blasphemous.
The Book of Documents. Ancient writers often used figurative language for very early times. But of course, Genesis is God's word, not man's history book.
As you have simply asserted an hypothisis your 'argument' neither stands up by itself or makes any sense.
For instead of startign with God .You start with evolution .
and instead of believign God .You believe evolution and measure God by it .
In 1John he speaks of "ye fathers ye know Him who is from the beginning"
That then is the creator .
God by His word says HE Created it and in the order that it is recorded.
You may debate the times and seasons .
But no where in that account "in the beginning" does it suggest evolution at all .
You ascribe to the idea that if evolution is wrong then God is a liar.
Yet as evolution has no foundation in scripture and "thy Word is truth" (Jesus) then I must conclude that evolution is the lie and Gods Word is true.
anf it is BECAUSE God is so good beneficiant that he left us his record as to the beginnings of things .
Unless of course you would deny that God created man out of the dust of the earth and believe that man has evolved from apes?
The record of mankind and the way of the world gives me no confidence at all as to the idea that anything it can dream up would be true.
Why it should give you so much confidence as to call God a liar you will have to answer yourself.
If men do not believe Gods account "in the beggining" How on earth can they then "Know Him who is form the beginning"!?
1 John
I must conclude then that the vast majority of professign christians do not know Him as well as they ought .
in Christ
gerald
No, he doesn't. I'm hoping you're merely confused and not intentionally lying.
I'm pretty sure he doesn't measure God by His creation.
Nor does it in any way deny it. Likewise, with protons, the rings of Saturn, and so on. There's a lot of truth that isn't in the Bible.
I don't see any way to reconcile His word with creationism.
You're assuming that His creation is false. He said it was very good.
If you accept all of it, then you know both of these are true.
He gave us intelligence and inquiring minds to get along in this world. He did a better job than you think He did.
After a lifetime of learning about Him, I conclude that I don't yet know enough about him. I would be very concerned for anyone who supposes "now I know enough about God."
6days
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That was on day 6 with a evening and morning.Barbarian said:
On the previous day God created birds.
(Dinosaurs did not evolve into birds)
God also created the earth before the stars,correct?
God created light a few days before He created the sun, correct?
And with each creative day, "God said...and it was done"
6days
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Good comments
noguru
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You can conclude whatever it is you want, but that does not necessarily make your conclusions accurate.
alwight
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As noguru has suggested to you Michael sometimes people will write with humour to highlight absurdity and nonsense. Jose was pretending, which perhaps should have been more obvious to you?
Poe's Law?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law
There is no wizard or scientist behind the curtain conspiring to deceive everyone.
Science is not a global conspiracy and neither are scientists against any God, it is simply a method whereby to examine and explain the evidence.
Simply believing that something is so because it happens to be written down, as you have seen here, can mislead you. But when you have evidence based conclusions that can be repeatedly tested and confirmed or put into practice then you have more reasonable grounds to be more convinced that it is true, rather than something you simply want to be true. To believe explicitly and literally what an old scripture says regardless of honest science, actual facts and evidence is what I personally find baffling but then I haven't been visited by angels.
Jose Fly
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It's satire.
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