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    Originally posted by Nick M View Post
    Galatians 5

    1Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage. 2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing. 3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law. 4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.

    16 I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.



    I wonder if people really understand this or are applying their preconceived notions from "church" teachings. Walking in the Spirit is to ignore the law. Walking in the Spirit is usually defined wrong on this forum and with many Christians. Paul is very clear.

    Earlier in the letter Paul said this;

    2 This only I want to learn from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are you so foolish? Having begun in the Spirit, are you now being made perfect by the flesh?

    And fake "Pentecostals" say that is only circumcision. Wrong. Paul is very clear. Under circumcision, you are indebted to keep the whole law. It isn't just about cutting of the flesh, which was foreshadowing.
    Excellent!

    We don't tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters exist.
    They already know monsters exist.
    We tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters can be killed.

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    16 I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh.


    Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
    can one who is indwelt by Christ choose to commit immoral acts?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by ok doser View Post




      can one who is indwelt by Christ choose to commit immoral acts?
      The Corinthians did. Some of them, anyway.
      "There is one thing worse than going to Hell. That would be going to Hell and having it be a surprise."
      Terence Mc Lean

      [most will be very surprised]


      Everyone who has not believed the Gospel of grace is not saved, no matter what else they believe or do.
      By that measure, how many professing Christians are on their way to the Lake of Fire?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Tambora View Post
        Excellent!
        Yup. Always are.
        "There is one thing worse than going to Hell. That would be going to Hell and having it be a surprise."
        Terence Mc Lean

        [most will be very surprised]


        Everyone who has not believed the Gospel of grace is not saved, no matter what else they believe or do.
        By that measure, how many professing Christians are on their way to the Lake of Fire?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by musterion View Post
          The Corinthians did. Some of them, anyway.
          were they truly indwelt?

          were Ananias and Sapphira?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Tambora View Post
            Excellent!
            I heard that Nick M has a great profile...especially from the side.
            Originally posted by Interplanner
            They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
            Originally posted by Interplanner
            You're too literal to get it.
            Originally posted by Interplanner
            The New Covenant preceded the Old Covenant.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by SaulToPaul View Post
              I heard that Nick M has a great profile...especially from the side.
              I rushed over here to see what you had to say, and I get this?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by glorydaz View Post
                I rushed over here to see what you had to say, and I get this?
                Insider Smokey and the Bandit reference for Nick M!
                Originally posted by Interplanner
                They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
                Originally posted by Interplanner
                You're too literal to get it.
                Originally posted by Interplanner
                The New Covenant preceded the Old Covenant.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ok doser View Post




                  can one who is indwelt by Christ choose to commit immoral acts?
                  "Immoral" covers a lot of ground.


                  When we walked in this world as unbelievers, we had no one to keep us on the straight path. We do now. I'm confident He will DO IT...even when I am weak.
                  1 Thessalonians 5:23-24
                  And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it.


                  Philippians 1:6
                  Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by SaulToPaul View Post
                    Insider Smokey and the Bandit reference for Nick M!
                    Brat.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by SaulToPaul View Post
                      Insider Smokey and the Bandit reference for Nick M!
                      I know that movie backwards and forwards!
                      It had some great lines in it!

                      We don't tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters exist.
                      They already know monsters exist.
                      We tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters can be killed.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ok doser View Post
                        were they truly indwelt?

                        were Ananias and Sapphira?
                        buehler?

                        buehler?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ok doser View Post
                          were they truly indwelt?
                          Salvation being by grace through faith, Paul seemed to have had doubts about some, but nonetheless chose to believe/acted on the assumption that they were Christ's...even the guy having sex with his own mother. That's how I understand him, anyway.

                          were Ananias and Sapphira?
                          It's unwise to take a miraculous apostolic era incident and seek to connect it this dispensation of grace.
                          "There is one thing worse than going to Hell. That would be going to Hell and having it be a surprise."
                          Terence Mc Lean

                          [most will be very surprised]


                          Everyone who has not believed the Gospel of grace is not saved, no matter what else they believe or do.
                          By that measure, how many professing Christians are on their way to the Lake of Fire?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by musterion View Post
                              Salvation being by grace through faith, Paul seemed to have had doubts about some, but nonetheless chose to believe/acted on the assumption that they were Christ's...even the guy having sex with his own mother. That's how I understand him, anyway.
                              Hmm...I don't think Paul considered that guy saved, because of what he wrote here. He was talking about how putting someone from out of the assembly might work toward their being saved down the road....after he was crucified with Christ and raised unto life.
                              1 Corinthians 5
                              1 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife. 2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you. 3 For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed, 4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

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