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  • Originally posted by tetelestai View Post
    BINGO!

    That's the point I have been trying to make to Dispensationalists for years.
    Darby (whoever he is) doesn't have a corner on all things "Spiritual and
    Biblical!" Neither does Calvin or any other mere human being! You
    really need to start reading/studying the writings of Paul! Both you
    and Nang! You and Nangs eternal destination is at stake?

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    • Originally posted by Grosnick Marowbe View Post
      Darby (whoever he is) doesn't have a corner on all things "Spiritual and
      Biblical!" Neither does Calvin or any other mere human being! You
      really need to start reading/studying the writings of Paul! Both you
      and Nang! You and Nangs eternal destination is at stake?
      Paul was a minister of the New Covenant.

      Why do you deny the New Covenant.

      How can you say you follow Paul, and then deny the NC is in place right now?

      What that tells me is that you don't follow Paul, it tells me you follow John Nelson Darby instead.
      (1 Cor 1:13 KJV) Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?

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      • Originally posted by tetelestai View Post
        Paul was a minister of the New Covenant.

        Why do you deny the New Covenant.

        How can you say you follow Paul, and then deny the NC is in place right now?

        What that tells me is that you don't follow Paul, it tells me you follow John Nelson Darby instead.

        GM's questions and empty challenges show me he has never bothered to research much of what others post. Or even examine what he has been taught to believe.

        It is extremely easy these days to Google what one really wants to discover the truth about, such as "New Covenant" "Covenant Theology" and the opposites: "Dispensationalism," and "J.N. Darby" etc.

        If GM, StP, heir, Musterion, Delmar, or Johnny really possessed a hunger and thirst for God's truth, they would spend most of their days doing online searches and exploring church history & biblical doctrines, to test the spirits and compare beliefs against their own (supposedly) profound study of God's Word.
        "The immutable God never learned anything and never changed his mind. He knew everything from eternity."

        " The difference between faith and saving faith are the propositions believed."
        Gordon H. Clark

        "If a man be lost, God must not have the blame for it; but if a man be saved, God must have the glory of it."
        Charles Spurgeon

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        • Originally posted by Nang View Post
          If GM, StP, heir, Musterion, Delmar, or Johnny really possessed a hunger and thirst for God's truth, they would spend most of their days doing online searches and exploring church history & biblical doctrines, to test the spirits and compare beliefs against their own (supposedly) profound study of God's Word.
          How can you say that; it is so pedantic? Delmar and STP, for sure, are light years beyond your theological understanding. AMR, who you may agree, is also far beyond your level of understanding. I respect his knowledge, he does not go in for petty debates over nonsense like you do. l had hoped better from you, seriously!
          So, what?

          believe it!

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          • It seems like Tet must have missed this post


            Originally posted by tetelestai View Post
            ...Darby used the same exact occult terms Helena Blavatsky used.

            Darby called God "the heavenly architect". Darby used occult terms such as: "vital force", "divine mind", "divine energy", "unintelligent energy", "energy of faith", "vital principle", "vital energy", "energy of love", and others in his writings.

            These are all esoteric occult terms.




            I am glad you brought this up. I have never known any of the teachers I have studied under or any of my fellow Mid Acts believers to use these terms.

            If you want to paint us with Darby, it might help to show some evidence that StP or John W or Bob Enyart or anyone else that we associate with uses such esoteric occult terms.

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            • Helena Blavatsky? I read the two volume work long ago, and it had nothing to do with Darby.

              You never read it; all you do is web search. Tet
              So, what?

              believe it!

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              • Originally posted by Ktoyou View Post
                How can you say that; it is so pedantic? Delmar and STP, for sure, are light years beyond your theological understanding.
                Think so? Delmar has no clue as to the source of the theological error he has been sold, and STP is a theological joke, who worships God in coffee houses.


                AMR, who you may agree, is also far beyond your level of understanding.
                Yeah, well that is what he thinks, too. But where is he, lately? This is a crucial debate occurring on TOL right now, so why does this spiritual hero not weigh in to uphold the one true Gospel of a God against this ungodly challenge?

                I respect his knowledge, he does not go in for petty debates over nonsense like you do. l had hoped better from you, seriously!
                Petty debates? Nonsense? You have a very low opinion of the cross achievements of Jesus Christ, if you think so.

                I will let AMR give you his own answer. BUT I refuse to allow my witness to the truths of Jesus Christ being reduced to whether it accords with (absentee member AMR), rather than the word of God. Is AMR your final authority?

                Why this approach? Why attempt to defy me and discredit my beliefs with personalities, rather than from the truths of Holy Scripture?
                "The immutable God never learned anything and never changed his mind. He knew everything from eternity."

                " The difference between faith and saving faith are the propositions believed."
                Gordon H. Clark

                "If a man be lost, God must not have the blame for it; but if a man be saved, God must have the glory of it."
                Charles Spurgeon

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                • Originally posted by Delmar View Post
                  It seems like Tet must have missed this post






                  I am glad you brought this up. I have never known any of the teachers I have studied under or any of my fellow Mid Acts believers to use these terms.

                  If you want to paint us with Darby, it might help to show some evidence that StP or John W or Bob Enyart or anyone else that we associate with uses such esoteric occult terms.
                  That has been the subject and purpose of this entire thread.

                  Sorry you have missed it . . .
                  "The immutable God never learned anything and never changed his mind. He knew everything from eternity."

                  " The difference between faith and saving faith are the propositions believed."
                  Gordon H. Clark

                  "If a man be lost, God must not have the blame for it; but if a man be saved, God must have the glory of it."
                  Charles Spurgeon

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                  • Originally posted by Delmar View Post
                    It seems like Tet must have missed this post
                    No, I replied to your post.

                    You appear to have missed the point.

                    The point was that Darby used Esoteric Theosophical terms in his writings, which led to his inventing the rapture and all kinds of other theories that led to his inventing Dispensationalism.

                    It doesn't mean that Dispensationalists today use those terms, it means that Dispensationalists today are following an invented doctrine by a man who used Esoteric Theosophical terms, and looked to visions for his teachings.

                    And, it has been shown that Aleister Crowley grew up in the Plymouth Brethern with the teachings of John Nelson Darby, and patterned his Thelema aeons off of Darby's dispensations.
                    (1 Cor 1:13 KJV) Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?

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                    • Originally posted by Ktoyou View Post
                      Helena Blavatsky? I read the two volume work long ago, and it had nothing to do with Darby.
                      I never said Helena Blavatsky's "The Secret Doctrine" had anything to do with Darby.

                      I specifically said that Darby used the same occult language found in Kabbalistic/Theosophical literature in his writings, that Blavatsky used in hers.
                      (1 Cor 1:13 KJV) Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?

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                      • Originally posted by Nang View Post
                        Think so? Delmar has no clue as to the source of the theological error he has been sold, and STP is a theological joke, who worships God in coffee houses.
                        Shame on you!




                        Yeah, well that is what he thinks, too. But where is he, lately? This is a crucial debate occurring on TOL right now, so why does this spiritual hero not weigh in to uphold the one true Gospel of a God against this ungodly challenge?
                        He has a very sick wife and other obligations



                        Petty debates? Nonsense? You have a very low opinion of the cross achievements of Jesus Christ, if you think so.

                        I will let AMR give you his own answer. BUT I refuse to allow my witness to the truths of Jesus Christ being reduced to whether it accords with (absentee member AMR), rather than the word of God. Is AMR your final authority?
                        No, not really, I respect his knowledge, and he knows we differ on theology.
                        Now I must relax for the night, goodnight.
                        So, what?

                        believe it!

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                        • Originally posted by tetelestai View Post
                          I never said Helena Blavatsky's "The Secret Doctrine" had anything to do with Darby.

                          I specifically said that Darby used the same occult language found in Kabbalistic/Theosophical literature in his writings, that Blavatsky used in hers.
                          You never really say anything. bye bye
                          So, what?

                          believe it!

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                          • Originally posted by tetelestai View Post
                            As we see, none of the John Nelson Darby followers can address the Royal Priesthood of believers.
                            Another one of his "Hail Mary's," that he spams in desperation, after he has avoided dozens answering questions from members of the boc.

                            Impressive Craigie, as TOL sees right through it, as we see that you are getting pounded, and embarrassed here.

                            As we can see, Craigie will not even address the question of whether I am saved, as I deny that we are in the NC.

                            Tet:


                            I've shut him down, as he is left to whimper, "You meanies won't address........"

                            Poser.
                            Last edited by john w; November 13th, 2014, 08:03 AM.
                            Saint John W

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                            • Originally posted by Nang View Post
                              You may eventually be saved (only God knows) but it has not happened yet or until you confess being in new covenant with Christ.
                              Slower:

                              "Denial of the new Covenant leaves you outside the new Covenant and outside of the redemption, atonement, and Person of Jesus Christ.Is that where you want to be?"-Naggie

                              Tet. says we can deny the NC, and still, we are saved. He says that you are wrong. He's afraid of you-as long as you are a "non dispie," he'll accept your doctrine, even if most of it is satanic-which it is.

                              Ask him.

                              You won't.
                              Saint John W

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                              • Originally posted by tetelestai View Post
                                Paul was a minister of the New Covenant.

                                Why do you deny the New Covenant.

                                How can you say you follow Paul, and then deny the NC is in place right now?

                                What that tells me is that you don't follow Paul, it tells me you follow John Nelson Darby instead.
                                I deny that the New Covenant is inaugurated now, and deny that it's provisions are for members of the body of Christ.

                                Am I lost? 7th request.


                                I've got him.

                                Loser. You know who is in charge here, and it's not you, punk.
                                Saint John W

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