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Rusha

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And you mean earned by ones actions without justice connotations

Oh, sort of like when I guy loses his wife over adultery or pornography or because loses a boat load of money by foolishly sending it to strangers from an internet website.

In that scenario, I might find deserved or earned applicable. :)
 

glorydaz

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And you mean earned by ones actions without justice connotations

I think one important thing to remember is that "justice" in the eyes of men and "justice" in the eyes of God may be poles apart, and for one simple reason. God sees all....all the straws that may end up breaking the camel's back (so to speak).

A person's actions accumulate, and the consequences for those actions may come at one fell swoop. It may appear to be unfair to those looking on, but what we see is only the tip of the iceberg.
 

ok doser

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I think one important thing to remember is that "justice" in the eyes of men and "justice" in the eyes of God may be poles apart ...

they shouldn't be, but our current "justice system" is based on a foundation that rejects God's Word
 

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Oh, sort of like when I guy loses his wife over adultery or pornography or because loses a boat load of money by foolishly sending it to strangers from an internet website.

In that scenario, I might find deserved or earned applicable. :)

If your husband is looking at pornography, it's really both of your faults.

I don't really need to explain why.



Since you want to bring up the paradigm of man and wife, and who deserves what- I know a woman who has been married many times over the past twenty five years, and she says constantly that she 'deserves to be happy'.

You wanna know the reality?
She doesn't.

Her children deserved to be happy, at least half of those husbands deserved to be happy.
But instead, a woman acts in rebellion and rather than actually care about somebody other than herself, she goes and makes everyone miserable with her selfishness and inability to submit to their husband.
 

theophilus

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If your husband is looking at pornography, it's really both of your faults.

I don't really need to explain why.

Not true.

If a man has been looking at pornography since he was 12 years old and he marries at 30 years old it's really NOT his wife's fault if he's looking at porn after he's married.

Porn is as much an addiction as drugs, gambling and alcoholism.
 

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If your husband is looking at pornography, it's really both of your faults.

My statement was general. Your statement is ... misogynistic and idiotic.

I don't really need to explain why.

Because there is no valid explanation outside of your need to justify any behavior as long as that person is of the male gender.

Since you want to bring up the paradigm of man and wife, and who deserves what- I know a woman who has been married many times over the past twenty five years, and she says constantly that she 'deserves to be happy'.

You wanna know the reality?
She doesn't.

:chuckle: Like it isn't a well known fact that you hate seeing women lead happy and productive lives. Sum.

Her children deserved to be happy,

That is rather telling. HER children ... but not HIS children. Apparently you believe that father's have no responsibility insomuch as putting their children first.

at least half of those husbands deserved to be happy.

They may OR may not. Unlike you, the point I evaluate from isn't solely dependent on gender.

But instead, a woman acts in rebellion

Oh, that pretty much sums up your whole worldview. A woman acts in rebellion ... aka does not OBEY her husband.

You have made an invalid, retarded assumption/statement that women and wives should always obey men and husbands.

You really do need to deal with your hostility towards women. It's not healthy. Sum.
 

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Not true.

If a man has been looking at pornography since he was 12 years old and he marries at 30 years old it's really NOT his wife's fault if he's looking at porn after he's married.

Porn is as much an addiction as drugs, gambling and alcoholism.

:chuckle: I did not live at or snoop through my time my ex-husband's home prior to our marriage date.

The hundreds of porn magazines in the spare rooms, closets, in the bathroom vanity, etc. were not my doing or my responsibility.
 

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Not even that anyone did or didn't "snoop."

Men really don't change their habits after marriage. They just hide them better.

Another good reason for a long engagement.

Engagement is a sign of trust, IMO. I don't think it shows trust to drag out an engagement. Courtship is the time for vetting and skepticism, if you ask me.
 

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Oh, sort of like when I guy loses his wife over adultery or pornography or because loses a boat load of money by foolishly sending it to strangers from an internet website.

In that scenario, I might find deserved or earned applicable. :)

I didn't lose my wife fifteen years ago. I filed for divorce over repeated adulterery. Where are you getting this bit about pornography from? What in the world are you rambling on about with losing money on the internet?
 

1PeaceMaker

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You have made an invalid, retarded assumption/statement that women and wives should always obey men and husbands.

Both should submit themselves to each other. Even the leadership role-play needs to be co-mutually agreed upon and accepted.

But a block to submission is a lack of trust.
 

ok doser

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:chuckle: I did not live at or snoop through my time my ex-husband's home prior to our marriage date.

The hundreds of porn magazines in the spare rooms, closets, in the bathroom vanity, etc. were not my doing or my responsibility.

they became your shared responsibility after you were married
 

Rusha

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Both should submit themselves to each other. Even the leadership role-play needs to be co-mutually agreed upon and accepted.

But a block to submission is a lack of trust.

This is actually reasonable, with exceptions. No wife or husband should be expected to consent to a practice that is harmful to the children OR to themselves.

Monetary issues is one of the biggest problems couples have.They can range from being overly cheap to overspending to such an extent that it hurts the family.
 

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You have made an invalid, retarded assumption/statement that women and wives should always obey men and husbands.

God didn't create man for the woman, but woman for the man. A woman isn't supposed to leave her husband, especially if that husband is also the father.
Statistically speaking, children are more likely to end up in jail or drop out of school with single mothers. A woman causes this when.. they divorce their husbands for looking at porn..

(out of their inability to submit and using sex as a device of control)

But I understand you don't like God's will too much.
Or anything that makes sense.
The light gets in the way of all the shade you like to throw.
 

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God didn't create man for the woman, but woman for the man. A woman isn't supposed to leave her husband, especially if that husband is also the father.

Brush up on your Bible and get back to me when you can show a verse that is supportive of married men committing adultery, battery, drunkedness and drug use.
 

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God didn't create man for the woman, but woman for the man. A woman isn't supposed to leave her husband, especially if that husband is also the father.
Statistically speaking, children are more likely to end up in jail or drop out of school with single mothers. A woman causes this when.. they divorce their husbands for looking at porn..

(out of their inability to submit and using sex as a device of control)

But I understand you don't like God's will too much.
Or anything that makes sense.
The light gets in the way of all the shade you like to throw.
You sound like you have been very unlucky with women.
 

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Brush up on your Bible and get back to me when you can show a verse that is supportive of married men committing adultery, battery, drunkedness and drug use.

Women aren't allowed to divorce their husbands in the Bible. It's only when the woman commits adultery that the man can divorce the woman.

And not the other way around.

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