Why Some Are Hell Bound
- Thread starter Robert Pate
- Start date
- Status
Yep, invalid comment to an invalid idiotic premise.
beloved57
Well-known member
If you want to go to hell believe the Calvinist lie that God predestinates people to hell. If you believe that then you will believe that God is unjust. You cannot and will not be saved if you believe that God is unjust.
Jesus is an equal opportunity Savior, everyone will have an equal opportunity except Satan won't be around on the Last Day. No big deal.
Your teaching is at the same level as the Calvinite teaching. Hardly any difference.
What's equal about all mankind rejecting?
The Spirit does not hold anyone accountable for what they do not know. The tree forbidden to the first family was not the tree of unknowing, it was a tree of knowledge from which every adult has had a bite. All of us are born sinless, but if we live long enough, c'est la vie.
fishrovmen
Active member
So believing a lie (if it is a lie) will send someone to hell, but habitual lying will not?
Revelation 21:8
To believe that God predestinates people to hell is to believe that God is unjust.
Salvation is by grace through faith. You will not and cannot be saved if you believe that God is unjust.
Where in the Bible does it say that we are born sinless. My Bible says that we are born into sin, Psalm 51:5, also Romans 5:12.
fishrovmen
Active member
What about habitual liars?
Are you accountable for someone's sins beside your own?
For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous. (Romans 5:19)
By one man's disobedience many were made sinners. Why? Why were many made sinners? What caused that?
I'll be happy to explain it if you don't know.
Spirit convicts them
Adam is the father of the human race. As Adam goes, so go we. We have inherited Adam's sin.
Adam's sin has been paid for. Jesus died for ALL sin, even Adam's.
Neither you nor anyone else is required to pay for someone's sin other than our own.
Newborn babies are not sinners.
By one man's disobedience many were made sinners. Why? Why were many made sinners? What caused that?
In Eden was a tree of life, what we today refer to as the Ten Commandments.
Adam was expelled from Eden so that he was cut-off from the tree of life.
Access to the tree of life has been guarded ever since.
In Eden was a tree of life, what we today refer to as the Ten Commandments.
Adam was expelled from Eden so that he was cut-off from the tree of life.
Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life and eat and live forever” — therefore the LORD God sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground from which he was taken.
So He drove out the man and He placed cherubim at the east of the garden of Eden, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way to the tree of life. (Genesis 3:22-24)
So He drove out the man and He placed cherubim at the east of the garden of Eden, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way to the tree of life. (Genesis 3:22-24)
Access to the tree of life has been guarded ever since.
As far as God is concerned the sin problem has been resolved by the doing and the dying of Jesus.
What we have now is the problem of rejection. Those who hear and reject Christ Gospel are lost. Those who hear and believe will be saved.
The problem is not rejection, the problem is that even though many are called not everyone is chosen for service in the kingdom.
Salvation has been provided for everyone, Hebrews 2:9.
To say that God chooses some to be saved and the rest to be damned to hell makes God unjust. If you believe that God is unjust, you will never see heaven.
- Status