Why Calvinist, Catholics, Muslims, Others are Lost
- Thread starter Robert Pate
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All mankind has not choosen unbelief. Where did you get that?
There are thousands in the Old Testament that believed God and were justified by faith, Romans 4:3.
There are millions that believe that Jesus is their savior and is the savior of the whole world, 1 John 2:2.
beloved57
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You believe God is Unjust and that to His own Son !
theophilus
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Will you please reference that?
Anyone that believes that God saves some and condemns the rest to hell, believes that God is unjust.
This is why salvation is by grace through faith.
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Have you ever even read Calvin's literature?
If any of you actually read what he teaches instead of making sweeping assumptions of TULIP, you will come to realize that your perception of it is simply screwed up.
Calvin is a remarkable edifier, with the backbone of St. Augustine who was also a remarkable edifier. Ingenious even.
I'll take them over your ideology, sorry.
theophilus
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God doesn't condemn people to Hell. People condemn themselves to Hell when they reject His Christ.
John 6:29 - Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent."
If you don't believe in Him Who was sent, Hell is the default.
beloved57
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My God condemns people to hell for their sins, and they were condemned by Him before the foundation of the world ! He created them to be condemned as Vessels of wrath ! Rom 9:22!
Right.
There is no scripture anywhere in the Bible that says God sends people to hell.
Anyone teaching such a thing is a liar.
People condemn themselves to hell? Name one.
beloved57
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None saying He doesn't ! Yet Jesus tells some this Matt 7:23 !
Cruciform
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"...fear him who...has power to cast into hell" (Lk. 12:5).
"...than that your whole body be thrown into hell" (Mt. 5:29).
"...fear him who can destroy...soul and body in hell" (Mt. 10:28).
"...than that your whole body be thrown into hell" (Mt. 5:29).
"...fear him who can destroy...soul and body in hell" (Mt. 10:28).
QUESTION: Who is the "him" in these texts, who throws men into hell?
Gaudium de veritate,
Cruciform
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beloved57
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If one doesn't believe on Christ its because they were not of His Sheep which He died for John 10:26 !
Salvation has been provided for all by the doing and the dying of Jesus, John 3:16.
If anyone goes to hell it will be because they have rejected God's great free gift of salvation.
Therefore, they send themselves to hell.
God does not deny anyone salvation. Your Calvinist God is an unmerciful tyrant.
Jesus has atoned for the sins of the whole world, making salvation available to all who do nothing more than calling on his name.
"Whosoever that shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved" Romans 10:13.
beloved57
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If one doesn't believe on Christ, it is because they were not of His Sheep that He loved and died for John 10:26 !
beloved57
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Invalid comments not supported by scriptures !