You are just taking it too literal.
You are a fool who projects his every hypocrisy into the words of others.
Try that instead of kicking the dust in their faces.
Hypocrite.
ECT Who actually revealed the "mystery" of the Gospel of grace ? Was Paul the first ?
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You are a fool who projects his every hypocrisy into the words of others.
Hypocrite.
Rubbish.
That instruction in that passage is valid.
Musti has always made it clear he has meant what he has said about me, and you agree with his hypocrisy.
The bigot has even posted his wanting a TOL where everyone who does not hold his extremism has been banned.
As for the other - you're a new creature in Christ.
You have no business boasting of what a tough old woman you are.
None.
No brag, just fact.
And you forgot "pretty".
A tough old pretty woman.
But enough about me.
Let's hear some more of your boasting about how much your perception of others, and scripture, is superior to all the rest of us.
opcorn:Interplanner
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The Gospel of grace was not the mystery, not the main one addressed by Paul in Eph 3:6. Obviously it is not the mystery of I Cor 15's change or Israel's hardness. No question there, but many people think the Gospel itself was a mystery. Nope. That it was the official channel for sharing the inheritance of Israel with the nations is the mystery that befuddled Israel's leaders, Judaism.
SaulToPaul 2
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Sure it is, the gospel of Christ is the mystery of Christ.
The mystery of the gospel is found in Eph 3, which concerns Gentiles outside the covenant promises.
Study the good book, and believe.
SaulToPaul 2
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The nuts and bolts of it can be found in the prophets, but to have it put together into a unit and presented as the good news was not known...nope.
dodge
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I believe the OT prophets laid out more than nuts and bolts:
Isiah:
Surely he hath borne our griefs,
and carried our sorrows:
yet we did esteem him stricken,
smitten of God, and afflicted.
5 But he was wounded for our transgressions,
he was bruised for our iniquities:
the chastisement of our peace was upon him;
and with his stripes we are healed.
6 All we like sheep have gone astray;
we have turned every one to his own way;
and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted,
yet he opened not his mouth:
he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter,
and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb,
so he openeth not his mouth.
8 He was taken from prison and from judgment:
and who shall declare his generation?
for he was cut off out of the land of the living:
for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
9 And he made his grave with the wicked,
and with the rich in his death;
because he had done no violence,
neither was any deceit in his mouth.
10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him;
he hath put him to grief:
when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin,
he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days,
and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.
11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied:
by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many;
for he shall bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great,
and he shall divide the spoil with the strong;
because he hath poured out his soul unto death:
and he was numbered with the transgressors;
and he bare the sin of many,
and made intercession for the transgressors.
Hi and I believe what verse you have written , BUT what do they have to do with the MYSTERY that was given to Paul in Gal 1:12 !!
Paul received it by Revelation also in Eph 3:3 and in Rom 16:25 !!
dan p
dodge
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dan ,read it again it explains the mystery that God withheld the meaning of for a TIME.
DAN, if you cannot see the gospel in the following you are SPIRITUALLY blind.
5 But he was wounded for our transgressions,
he was bruised for our iniquities:
the chastisement of our peace was upon him;
and with his stripes we are healed.
6 All we like sheep have gone astray;
we have turned every one to his own way;
and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
musterion
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musterion
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At what point in the Bible did Jews and Gentiles both realize God had put no distinction between them?
Hi and IF it was written in Isa 53 :5 than it is NOT a SECRET / MUSTERION , is it ??
Paul received the MYSTERY by direct Revelation in Gal 1:12 , SO WHERE IS THE BEEF , ???
dan p
dodge
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I know that but have been told it is by some/many.
Trying to nail down which group believes what in Dipsy is like trying to nail jello to a wall.
The most deceived so far has been one that told me Paul is the " I AM ".
I placed Danoh on "EGGNORE" a long time ago and I've haven't regretted since. He's just here to cause dissension. He's a real "Trouble Maker."
Interplanner
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Can't accept your def. (But the other two lines are fine). The thing was embedded in the OT, but the Judaism that Paul grew up in could not see it. That made it a mystery, and that is what makes it both there (Acts 15) and hidden (Eph 1, 3, Col 1, Rom 16) at the same time.
Only in Christ is the hiddenness removed. That would be the veil. God gave a few people before Christ a glimpse of what was in it.
musterion
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Interplanner
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Yes, right, and Paul meant that in terms of 1st century Judaism. He was raised thinking their thoughts. He then realized the message was there in their OT texts all the time, but the constructs of 1st century Judaism were the veil that blocked it.