ECT What is the true root objection to MAD?

[musterion]

God didn’t break branches off of the Gentiles and graft them in to the olive tree of Israel, for that would make us part of Israel. No, when God cut Israel off because of the unbelief of some, the axe was laid to the root of the tree of Israel (Matt. 3:10) and the entire wild olive “tree” of the Gentiles was graft in to the root of Abraham (Rom. 11:17). . .

"...the connection that believing Gentiles have with the believing branches of the olive tree is not based on Jacob (Israel), it is based on Abraham. We are part of the seed of Abraham, but we are not part of “the stock of Israel” (Phil. 3:5). That is, if we return our attention back up to Romans 11:16, we see that Gentiles cannot be made to be a part of the aggregate “lump” of saved and unsaved Jews that stem from the firstfruit of Isaac and Jacob, for we can’t trace our family tree back to those patriarchs . . ."

“Lest ye should be wise in your own conceits” (Rom. 11:25), that is, lest you [L.A., Tet, et al] be found among those that boast against the branches of Israel by teaching replacement theology, God would have you to know that Israel’s blindness is only temporary (v. 25), and that the day will come when God will return Israel to her roots (vv. 26, 27). He is not through with Israel yet! Those who claim that God took all of her promises and gave them to us need to remember that “the gifts and calling of God are without repentance” (Rom. 11:29), and that Israel will one day get all that God promised her.

https://www.bereanbiblesociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/February-Berean-Searchlight.pdf

As has been said elsewhere, the Body of Christ itself has been grafted into nothing, nor does it need to be.

 

[tetelestai]

Circumcised Gentiles could be called Jews, yet circumcised Israelites could not be called Jews?

How many times do I have to tell you that the Israelites from the 10 Northern Tribes could have become Jews if they wanted?

They chose not to.

They went to war against the Jews, they built a counterfeit temple, they worshipped false gods.

Then God divorced them, scattered them, had no mercy on them, told them they were not a people.

Yet, you think they were Jews.

 

[tetelestai]

I affirm every word the Holy Bible says about the new covenant, every word of Hebrews and Jeremiah.

No you don't

(Heb 8:13 KJV) In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

Was does "hath made" mean?

 

[tetelestai]

Circumcised Gentiles could be called Jews, yet circumcised Israelites could not be called Jews?

Why won't you answer the question about the Samaritan Woman?

Was she, or was she not a Jew?

 

[tetelestai]

“Lest ye should be wise in your own conceits” (Rom. 11:25), that is, lest you [L.A., Tet, et al] be found among those that boast against the branches of Israel by teaching replacement theology,

Quoting from a Hyper-Dispensationalist website (bereanbiblesociety.com) does nothing but prove you are a follower of John Nelson Darby.

From bereanbiblesociety.com:

"With the close of the first century the truth of the Body of Christ and the Blessed Hope was lost. In the recovery the disciples of John Darby were pioneers." - SOURCE

As we see above, the Berean Bible Society thinks "the truth" was lost from 100AD until 1830 when John Nelson Darby somehow "recovered" it again.

It's amazing how you followers of John Nelson Darby have been brainwashed.

 

[Cross Reference]

I fail to see how a primarily literal interpretation is needlessly complicated. To me, it's based in a belief that God is capable of saying what He means and meaning what He says.

Allegorization is where things get stupid, imo.

Your *mad interpretation is the problem __ not for Christians but for your crowd.

*Pun intended. Like Calvinism, it is a bane to Christendom.

What God gifts is always in promise form except His gift of the Holy Ghost.. The fulfillment of His promise of Grace was fulfilled the moment Jesus resurrected, which was the proof of it

 

[musterion]

Quoting from a Hyper-Dispensationalist website (bereanbiblesociety.com) does nothing but prove you are a follower of John Nelson Darby.

From bereanbiblesociety.com:

"With the close of the first century the truth of the Body of Christ and the Blessed Hope was lost. In the recovery the disciples of John Darby were pioneers." - SOURCE

As we see above, the Berean Bible Society thinks "the truth" was lost from 100AD until 1830 when John Nelson Darby somehow "recovered" it again.

It's amazing how you followers of John Nelson Darby have been brainwashed.

Bulverism: explaining why an opponent is wrong for holding to a position, but never addressing the position itself.

 

[musterion]

Your *mad interpretation is the problem __ not for Christians but for your crowd.

*Pun intended. Like Calvinism, it is a bane to Christendom.

What God gifts is always in promise form except His gift of the Holy Ghost.. The fulfillment of His promise of Grace was fulfilled the moment Jesus resurrected, which was the proof of it

More bulverism.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

How many times do I have to tell you that the Israelites from the 10 Northern Tribes could have become Jews if they wanted?

So, being a Jew is more about circumcision and worshiping the one true God than it is about which tribe they were from?

Now we are getting somewhere.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

Was does "hath made" mean?

Hath made.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

Why won't you answer the question about the Samaritan Woman?

Was she, or was she not a Jew?

The Bible calls her a Samaritan. I doubt she was circumcised. :noway:

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

As we see above, the Berean Bible Society thinks "the truth" was lost from 100AD until 1830 when John Nelson Darby somehow "recovered" it again.

It's amazing how you followers of John Nelson Darby have been brainwashed.

If no one preached that Jesus is the Christ from 100ad to 1830 would it be any less true?

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Your *mad interpretation is the problem __ not for Christians but for your crowd.

*Pun intended. Like Calvinism, it is a bane to Christendom.

What God gifts is always in promise form except His gift of the Holy Ghost.. The fulfillment of His promise of Grace was fulfilled the moment Jesus resurrected, which was the proof of it

K:

 

[Cross Reference]

More bulverism.

As I wrote to to your sidekick: Your dogma won't allow you to understand such things. Therefore, it is given to me to not waste my time ___ Sink or swim with that.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

As I wrote to to your sidekick: Your dogma won't allow you to understand such things. Therefore, it is given to me to not waste my time ___ Sink or swim with that.

As long as we don't have to swim in the same pool as you?

 

[steko]

As long as we don't have to swim in the same pool as you?

 

[musterion]

As long as we don't have to swim in the same pool as you?

His pool is about 3' across, 3" deep and has Dora on it.

 

[Right Divider]

Please show me a verse in the Bible were the word "Jews" refers to all of Israel?

Rom 3:23-30 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; (24) Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: (25) Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; (26) To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. (27) Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. (28) Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. (29) Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also: (30) Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
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Or do you believe that God considered the 10 tribes to be uncircumcised gentiles at that time?

 

[Tambora]

Darby

:chuckle:

 

[john w]

As we see above, the Berean Bible Society thinks "the truth" was lost from 100AD until 1830 when John Nelson Darby somehow "recovered" it again.

Tet. the clown once again affirms that when you discover objective truth, determines if it is objective truth, and thus, once again, asserts that:

1. The LORD God did not have a holy name, "The Great I am," until it was revealed to Moses, and ..

2. The LORD God of the bible, was not the LORD God of the bible, prior to when He was revealed to Pharaoh, the Egyptians, as it was lost, prior to this time, and...

3. The earth was flat at one time.

It's amazing how you followers of John Nelson Darby have been brainwashed

.

It's amazing how you spam that "Darby" stumper, when you cannot answer the hundreds of questions we've asked you, punk, and how you spam that "brainwashed" dung, aqnd other names, when you, on record, say that you never "personally attack" others, or name call.

You filthy actor.