ECT Two different gospels? One for the circumcisions and another for the uncircumcision?

oatmeal

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DAN P said:
Hi and in the Body of Christ , there are no Husbands or wifes as Gal 3:28 reveals as there are NEITHER Male nor Female !!

Gal 2:7 shows 2 Gospels , BUT it does not call " THE CIRCUMCISION " a Gospel in the Greek Text .

Paul's is called the Gospel of " the Un-circumcision " for the Gentiles !

Peter's is called " the Circumcision " for Jews only !!

The Greek article " the " separates the two and makes them SPECIFIC to a certain Gospel .

Gal 3:8 the Gospel was given to Abram , and NOT to Abraham , as the Greek yext has it !

Then in Rev 14:6-7 we have a Judgment Gospel , called the " everlasting Gospel !!

At this point we have 4 Gospels !!

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When scriptures teach a concept, it is necessary that God communicates in terms that humans understand, ie, words that make sense in the context.

Galatians 3:28 is indeed true,

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

And it says more than that there is no male nor female.

It says that there is no Jew (Judean) nor Greek ( Gentile)

It is therefore unnecessary for there to be two different gospels, but there is need for at least two different approaches to teach the same gospel

there is no reason for two different gospels

for we are one body

Ephesians 5:22-25 makes a distinction between husband and wife.

Why? because although spiritually man and woman are no different, physically and mentally they are different. I think we have all noticed that.

You are making my point clearer, thank you.

You could in fact dilineate it further and say that there is a gospel for each and unique individual, for God works with individuals Philippians 2:13

Yet the goal is the same. I Timothy 2:4

Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

To come to your individual version of the truth?

No, to come to a knowledge, one of many?

nope, to come to THE knowledge of the truth.

The entire word of God is one gospel, and it is indeed many faceted, yet it is one word of God, not three hundred or just two or four, or whatever number of divisions you wish to make

The entire word of God is good news for it is God's word.

In spite of the errors and sins that it forewarns against, it is more than just commandments, every commandment is also a promise that we can do what we are commanded to do, and that is very, very, very good news
 
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SaulToPaul said:
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I wonder if oatmeal has reviewed Genesis yet, Abram in uncircumcision, Abraham in circumcision.
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I think he has. He can not read all the posts as long he has been here and not know. Think of all in the past that hardly or do not post now like chickenman, clete, Acts9_12out, servo, Heir (daily), etc etc. He can not claim to not know.
 
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Rom 4:7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
Rom 4:8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
Rom 4:9 Cometh this blessedness then upon the circumcision only, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness.
Rom 4:10 How was it then reckoned? when he was in circumcision, or in uncircumcision? Not in circumcision, but in uncircumcision.
Rom 4:11 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:
Rom 4:12 And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised.
Rom 4:13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.
Rom 4:14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:
Rom 4:15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.
Rom 4:16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,
Rom 4:17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.
Rom 4:18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be.
Rom 4:19 And being not weak in faith, he considered not his own body now dead, when he was about an hundred years old, neither yet the deadness of Sara's womb:
Rom 4:20 He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God;
Rom 4:21 And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform.
Rom 4:22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.
Rom 4:23 Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;
Rom 4:24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead; Rom 4:25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
 
oatmeal

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Nick M said:
I think he has. He can not read all the posts as long he has been here and not know. Think of all in the past that hardly or do not post now like chickenman, clete, Acts9_12out, servo, Heir (daily), etc etc. He can not claim to not know.
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Did Jesus Christ die for the Judeans only? but not for the Gentiles?

I John 2:2 did he die for the whole world?

Or did he die only for the Gentiles?

Or if you are a some kind of Calvinist, only for those who God pre selected to salvation?

Oh, what is your post trying to say?

Did Jesus did twice? once for Judeans and once for Gentiles?

Or maybe his right side died for the J's and the left for the G's?

Is Christ divided?

Were you baptized in the name of Paul or Peter?
 
oatmeal

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Cross Reference said:
Do all abide in Him?
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Abide as in being a member in particular in the body of Christ? All believers abide in him all the time

Abide in doing what we are supposed to be doing?

No one abides in him all the time perfectly, but we remain justified and have peace with God
 
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oatmeal said:
No one abides in him all the time perfectly, but we remain justified and have peace with God
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Quit preaching, especially when you aren't sure of yourself as in this case you can't be. No one has peace with God and leaves himself open for destruction if he ceases to abide.
 
oatmeal

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Quit preaching, especially when you aren't sure of yourself as in this case you can't be. No one has peace with God and leaves himself open for destruction if he ceases to abide.
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Romans 5:1 is sufficiently clear and it is God's word, not mine.

You have a problem with being justified and having peace with God?

Take that up with Jesus Christ, who suffered and died to give you that and his Father who told him to do that.

Good luck!
 
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oatmeal said:
Romans 5:1 is sufficiently clear and it is God's word, not mine.

You have a problem with being justified and having peace with God?

Take that up with Jesus Christ, who suffered and died to give you that and his Father who told him to do that.

Good luck!
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You need to take your own 'preaching' to heart. You are off base, bunk. "Good luck" to you.
 
oatmeal

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You need to take your own 'preaching' to heart. You are off base, bunk. "Good luck" to you.
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Romans 5:1 is truth

You do believe the truth do you not?

It is not God's blame if a believer does not believe that.

It is there for believers to read and learn and believe and live

Is it "too good to be true?" it is good because it is true.
 
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