The Word Made Flesh

[Word]

A spirit or any spirit for that matter has life.
Therefore it cannot be created.
Unless you believe that God created Himself
for God is life and the origin of all life.

To be a spirit with life
you have had to be born.

So that brings me back to this question...

Is God the Father of all spirits?

If not then who else is besides God?

 

[jamie]

So then you are inquiring?
We only call Him Father because we are adopted through Christ.

The word "adoption" is used in Romans 8:15 which says: "For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, 'Abba, Father.'"

However, the word adoption should have been translated as sonship. We are sons by begettal of the Spirit, not adoption. The first son of the Father was adopted, not begotten (Exodus 4:22).

Jesus said we must be born of the Spirit (John 3:3). The word "born" is the Greek gennao, which means to procreate.

In Acts 13:33 the same word (gennao) is translated begotten. The meaning of gennao must be determined by the context in which it is used.

Many people claim they are "born again" when in fact they are only spiritually begotten. Spiritual reproduction parallels physical reproduction, but without sex since the person already exists.

 

[jamie]

...and so seven is not referring to a quantitative number of spirits, but the qualitative perfection of the Spirit of God.

I disagree.

 

[jamie]

...You didn't understand my post. Breath/Spirit/Wind are all the same word in both Hebrew and Greek. God's spirit is still the source of life. "Breathe life" is both literal and figurative.

Ok, but flesh is flesh and spirit is spirit. (Jesus)

 

[jamie]

Spirits is plural is it not?

He did not write the seven Spirit of God.

He said seven Spirits.

Were there seven churches
or just one church represented by the number seven?

There are seven symbolic groups of believers. Five groups have problems which Jesus addressed and two did not have problems and had no correction.

 

[jamie]

Is God the Father of all spirits?

The Father is the father of all spirits created through Christ. It was Christ who made everything that was made (John 1:3).

 

[Word]

Ok, but flesh is flesh and spirit is spirit. (Jesus)

When the word was made flesh was it flesh?

 

[jamie]

A spirit or any spirit for that matter has life.
Therefore it cannot be created.
To be a spirit with life
you have had to be born.

Did Adam and Eve have life?

 

[Word]

The Father is the father of all spirits created through Christ. It was Christ who made everything that was made (John 1:3).

Who created Christ?

 

[jamie]

When the word was made flesh was it flesh?

The Word became a human being just like us (John 1:14).

 

[Word]

Did Adam and Eve have life?

Are they alive?

 

[jamie]

Who created Christ?

Christ was not created, he always existed.

 

[Word]

The Word became a human being just like us (John 1:14).

Then is was no longer the word.

 

[Word]

Christ was not created, he always existed.

Existed as what?

 

[jamie]

Are they alive?

They were not born, they were created. They did live but are now dead.

 

[Word]

There are seven symbolic groups of believers. Five groups have problems which Jesus addressed and two did not have problems and had no correction.

Where did you come up with this?

 

[jamie]

Are they alive?

They were not born, they were created. They did live but are now dead for the time being.

 

[Word]

They were not born, they were created. They did live but are now dead.

Are their spirits dead or still alive?

 

[jamie]

Where did you come up with this?

Revelation 2 & 3. Are you familiar with those chapters?

 

[Word]

Revelation 2 & 3. Are you familiar with those chapters?

I am only familiar with the Spirit of truth.