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The Word Made Flesh
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Aletheiophile
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In what image did Jesus exist before He was conceived?
The Father. Colossians 1:15
The Father. Colossians 1:15
What image is the Father?
Aletheiophile
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What image is the Father?
You have to understand what image is. Image is eikon defined by Zodhiates as:
Eikon, image, always assumes a prototype, that which it not merely resembles, but from which it is drawn...Eikon includes and involves the resemblance of similitude.
God is not in the image of anything. He is the prototype for and source of the image.
You have to understand what image is. Image is eikon defined by Zodhiates as:
Eikon, image, always assumes a prototype, that which it not merely resembles, but from which it is drawn...Eikon includes and involves the resemblance of similitude.
God is not in the image of anything. He is the prototype for and source of the image.
Is God a Spirit?
Aletheiophile
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Is God a Spirit?
He is not a spirit. He is Spirit. But He is not bound to our understanding from spirit. He is the source of all things spiritual, and is not subordinate to what "Spirit" implies.
"Christ's righteousness has been imputed, [gifted] to us". I said that. Thanks for agreeing.
Who imputed righteousness to Christ?
Is there more than one Spirit?He is not a spirit. He is Spirit. But He is not bound to our understanding from spirit. He is the source of all things spiritual, and is not subordinate to what "Spirit" implies.
What is the differences between Spirit and a spirit?He is not a spirit. He is Spirit. But He is not bound to our understanding from spirit. He is the source of all things spiritual, and is not subordinate to what "Spirit" implies.
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Is there more than one Spirit?
Of course there are spirits. But God is not one among many. He is THE Spirit which gave all breath of life to all other spirits (all of which have some outer form.)
Is God the Father of all spirits?Of course there are spirits. But God is not one among many. He is THE Spirit which gave all breath of life to all other spirits (all of which have some outer form.)
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Is God the Father of all spirits?
What are you getting at with all of these weirds questions? I can't tell if you're inquiring or challenging.
I have heard the truth will make me free.What are you getting at with all of these weirds questions? I can't tell if you're inquiring or challenging.
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I have heard the truth will make me free.
So then you are inquiring?
Alright then.
You could say that God is the Father of all Spirits, but He did not father them in the proper sense of the word. He is the originator and life-giver. We only call Him Father because we are adopted through Christ.
Then the truth is that GodSo then you are inquiring?
Alright then.
You could say that God is the Father of all Spirits, but He did not father them in the proper sense of the word. He is the originator and life-giver. We only call Him Father because we are adopted through Christ.
is not your Spiritual Father because
you are not really born of the Spirit of God.
Just as someone adopted by their non biological parents
are not born of the same flesh as they.
Aletheiophile
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Then the truth is that God
is not your Spiritual Father because
you are not really born of the Spirit of God.
Just as someone adopted by their non biological parents
are not born of the same flesh as they.
No. The Spirit is breathed by God. Genesis 2:7. So He is the origin of all Spiritual life. But because we communed with the serpent, our Spiritual communion with God ceased, and thus the rest of mankind is born in Spiritual death.
But God sent for His Word to be incarnate, authentically God and authentically man. On the cross, God put upon him the guilt for all sin (2 Corinthians 5:21), that we might become righteous. Believers are crucified with Christ, and thus are dead physically by faith (for we are already spiritually dead). But resurrected with Christ, His Life is ours, by His Spirit. He has us. Because the Spirit of Christ is the Spirit of God, He is directly our father through Christ. We are in Christ, and Christ is of the Father.
It is not a mere legal adoption. We are made into the image of Christ -- 2 Corinthians 3:18; Romans 8:29 -- just as Christ is the image of the Father. As Christ talks about the second birth of Spirit (John 3), this is being born of Spirit.
So you believeNo. The Spirit is breathed by God. Genesis 2:7. So He is the origin of all Spiritual life. But because we communed with the serpent, our Spiritual communion with God ceased, and thus the rest of mankind is born in Spiritual death.
But God sent for His Word to be incarnate, authentically God and authentically man. On the cross, God put upon him the guilt for all sin (2 Corinthians 5:21), that we might become righteous. Believers are crucified with Christ, and thus are dead physically by faith (for we are already spiritually dead). But resurrected with Christ, His Life is ours, by His Spirit. He has us. Because the Spirit of Christ is the Spirit of God, He is directly our father through Christ. We are in Christ, and Christ is of the Father.
It is not a mere legal adoption. We are made into the image of Christ -- 2 Corinthians 3:18; Romans 8:29 -- just as Christ is the image of the Father. As Christ talks about the second birth of Spirit (John 3), this is being born of Spirit.
that God is the origin
of all spiritual life.
Did He create them or did He conceive them?
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So you believe
that God is the origin
of all spiritual life.
Did He create them or did He conceive them?
Yes.
Who is "them"?
Yes.
Who is "them"?
Any spirit that has life.
Did God create them or conceive them?
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Any spirit that has life.
Did God create them or conceive them?
Create.