I did not call Jesus untrustworthy, you did.
You say that, and then this is your next post:
Answered in post 15527.
If Jesus the man was dead he could not raise himself.
When you call someone a liar, it usually means that they are untrustworthy. You're calling Jesus a liar and therefore untrustworthy, because you say that He could not raise Himself from the dead, when He said he will.
That's a pretty serious sin you're accusing Him of. You need to repent.
If the logos left him at the cross and did not die with him then he could have raised himself.
That's besides the issue. We're talking about the claim that Jesus made in which He says He can raise Himself.
BUT THERE IS NO VERSE THAT SAYS HE DID RAISE HIMSELF.
Correct. But that's not the point I'm making, Keypurr, please stay focused.
God raised him from the dead.
And yet if Jesus is God, then that statement remains true. If God the Father raised God the Son from the dead, it's still God raising Jesus from the dead.
If Jesus, speaking as God, claims that if you "destroy this temple," aka kill Jesus, then he is not lying.
But what you claim is that Jesus is not God, and therefore cannot speak as God, and therefore any claim power over death, which makes Jesus a liar, because He claimed such.
Now, why would you worship a being that is untrustworthy?
The logos is a created spirit, did it die on the cross as a man?
I think so for the logos took the form of man. And suffered as a man. So being dead was unable to raise himself.
In the beginning was the LOGOS, and the LOGOS was with God and God was the LOGOS.
Keypurr, question for you, if you prefer the AENT, then why do you prefer to use the Greek word for the Word, LOGOS? Wouldn't you rather use the Aramaic term, "Memra"?
But we know the power of the logos is the fullness of the Father.
What does that have to do with Jesus' claim over the power of death? If He cannot raise Himself from the dead, then He has no right to make that claim.
Keypurr, there are only three possibilities as to who Jesus Christ is.
He is either a liar, or a lunatic, or He is LORD.
And you've now shown that you believe Him to be a liar. Shame on you.