The Son was born to become both Savior and the Christ who will sit on David's throne in Jerusalem. He is working as Savior but David's throne does not yet exist at this time in Jerusalem, which suggests to me that he is not sitting on it.
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The Son was born to become both Savior and the Christ who will sit on David's throne in Jerusalem. He is working as Savior but David's throne does not yet exist at this time in Jerusalem, which suggests to me that he is not sitting on it.
So you don't believe the babe was Christ. Sad.
He was born to become the Christ. He will be the King of other kings, he will be the Lord of other lords. He will rule the world. This is not that difficult.
If you believe Jesus Christ is sitting on David's throne in Jerusalem, sad.
He's not sitting on the throne in Jerusalem but He was still born the Christ. Scripture attests to that.
drbrumley
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keypurr
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If Jesus had the HS at birth why did he have a need for it at his anointing?
The Holy Spirit is a person, who came down in the form of a dove.
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God's Truth
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Jesus came as a Man and the Holy Spirit coming on him with power was for his earthly ministry.
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David's throne is a throne over Israel.
Jesus is on the throne over Israel and over every name and power.
Ephesians 1:21
far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every name that is invoked, not only in the present age but also in the one to come.
Jesus was anointed by the Spirit in the form of a dove.
In Israel, the ritualistic act of anointing was performed to inaugurate people into certain specific offices, and only offices that had no earthly superior and were subject only to God. Thus only a High Priest (Leviticus 4:3) and a prophet and a king would be anointed into office (1 Kings 19:16). Regular priests and certain venerable objects would be consecrated by receiving a mere sprinkling of the oil (Exodus 30:26, Leviticus 8:30).
http://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Christ.html#.WJ_r8YWcEdU
http://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Christ.html#.WJ_r8YWcEdU
An anointing required contact. In Jesus' case the contact was God's Spirit in the form of a dove.
The Savior Jesus was anointed to be the Christ and to fulfill the Messianic prophecies of world government after his resurrection.
keypurr
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What spirit was hr born with if he got the HS at his anointing?
And more important, what is the power he received in Acts 10:38?
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His own. Again, the "Holy Spirit," or "Holy Ghost," is a separate person from the Father and the Son.
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keypurr
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I do not see the Holy Spirit as a person, rather a force.
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Keypurr, we've been through this already. You can't lie to a force. A force cannot be angry. A force does not have a will of it's own.
The Holy Spirit is a person, whether you see Him as one or not.
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May the force be with you !!!
keypurr
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And again, it doesn't matter if you agree or disagree. It's a fact that the Holy Spirit is a person.
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keypurr
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We agree on this GT.
Except he received much more than the Holy Spirit, he got the logos, the spirit son of God.
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