the ten horns

fzappa13

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the ten horns are dynasties

No, they are ten kings that receive power one hour.

Rev 17: The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. 10And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. 11And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. 12And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. 13These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

You will note the seven heads are also kings. Five had come and gone at the time John received his vision, one was still reigning at that time, and one was yet to come and the beast (who is the eighth). These are the conquering kings that have and will rule over Israel and the Whore Jerusalem.

John Chapter 4: Jesus and the Samaritan Woman
Jesus and the Samaritan Woman
John 4:3-26

1 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John,

2 (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)

3 He left Judaea, and departed again into Galilee.

4 And he must needs go through Samaria.

5 Then cometh he to a city of Samaria, which is called Sychar, near to the parcel of ground that Jacob gave to his son Joseph.

6 Now Jacob's well was there. Jesus therefore, being wearied with his journey, sat thus on the well: and it was about the sixth hour.

7 There cometh a woman of Samaria to draw water: Jesus saith unto her, Give me to drink.

8 (For his disciples were gone away unto the city to buy meat.)

9 Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans.

10 Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.

11 The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water?

12 Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle?

13 Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again:

14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.

15 The woman saith unto him, Sir, give me this water, that I thirst not, neither come hither to draw.

16 Jesus saith unto her, Go, call thy husband, and come hither.

17 The woman answered and said, I have no husband. Jesus said unto her, Thou hast well said, I have no husband:

18 For thou hast had five husbands; and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband: in that saidst thou truly.

Five are, one is and is yet to come ... and the son of perdition is the eighth. Satan is the son of perdition and is called so when he entered into Judas and when He enters into the Anti-Christ just after being expelled from heaven and just before he comes after the saints of God for 3 1/2 years at which point he will be cast into the pit to await his final opportunity to lead a final charge against Jerusalem who will no longer be referred to as a whore at that time because she has finally married her real husband who will defend her.
 
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aikido7

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The "ten horns" refers to the famous Apocalyptic Jazz Orchestra, which includes trombones, trumpets, saxophones galore.
 

chrysostom

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horns represent power
especially the dynastic type

st jerome biblical commentary

should have been

horns speak of power
in particular, dynastic power

the jerome biblical commentary
 
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fzappa13

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horns represent power
especially the dynastic type

st jerome biblical commentary

Jesus said:
12And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. 13These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

Hmmmmm .. let's see ... Jesus or Chrys ... tough choice ... :think:

They share power with the beast ... your caliphates have come and gone Chrys.



Jesus said:
14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them

Did we all miss the war Chrys?

Jesus said:
For God hath put in their hearts to fulfill his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

Have the words of God been fulfilled Chrys?
 
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fzappa13

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Not that I can tell ... being this is all supposed to happen in a short space of time and all the contestants appear to cooperate ... kinda hard to do from the grave.
 

chrysostom

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Not that I can tell ... being this is all supposed to happen in a short space of time and all the contestants appear to cooperate ... kinda hard to do from the grave.

that statement includes many assumptions that are in no way warranted
 

fzappa13

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that statement includes many assumptions that are in no way warranted

... other than a plain reading of the English. But, I will admit, that too has it's pitfalls occasionally. But not in this instance I think.


hōra


a certain definite time or season fixed by natural law and returning with the revolving year

of the seasons of the year, spring, summer, autumn, winter

the daytime (bounded by the rising and setting of the sun), a day

a twelfth part of the day-time, an hour, (the twelve hours of the day are reckoned from the rising to the setting of the sun)

any definite time, point of time, moment
 

chrysostom

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the ten horns
are
the ten dynasties of the second beast of the apocalypse

the fourth beast of daniel
 

fzappa13

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If you expect anyone to take you seriously you going to have to address their points rather than ignoring them and repeating biblically unsubstantiated assertions ad nauseum.

The " jerome biblical commentary" is not the Bible though I don't doubt it passes for such for some, not unlike so many other competing commentaries do for others.

If you want someone to read your offerings and respond to them directly and cogently you must reciprocate. Otherwise ... dead thread.
 

chrysostom

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If you expect anyone to take you seriously you going to have to address their points

I will and have responded to reasonable posts
the title is ten horns
and
I have presented my views on it

what are your views on the ten horns?
if
you don't agree with mine

can you show me where you have presented them?
 

aikido7

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I will and have responded to reasonable posts
the title is ten horns
and
I have presented my views on it

what are your views on the ten horns?
if
you don't agree with mine

can you show me where you have presented them?
When I was younger, Christians in my neighborhood were convinced that whenever the number "4" occurred in Revelation, it referred to John, Paul, Ringo and George.

Seriously. And of course, everyone's idea was biblically correct.

We all look to the clouds and see animal shapes. And every major earthly civilization saw different shapes as constellations in the night sky.

We impose meaning on things that are mysteries.
 

chrysostom

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When I was younger, Christians in my neighborhood were convinced that whenever the number "4" occurred in Revelation, it referred to John, Paul, Ringo and George.

Seriously. And of course, everyone's idea was biblically correct.

We all look to the clouds and see animal shapes. And every major earthly civilization saw different shapes as constellations in the night sky.

We impose meaning on things that are mysteries.

I will wait for fzappa13 to reply to this
 

Wick Stick

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We all look to the clouds and see animal shapes. And every major earthly civilization saw different shapes as constellations in the night sky.
Not sure if true. The signs of the Chinese zodiac are mostly the same as the signs in the Egyptian zodiac and Babylonian zodiac.

Anyhow... 10 horns.

I think they are the cities of the Decapolis. Anybody say that yet?

Jarrod
 
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