The Slaying of Reformed Theology (Calvinism)

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#Now that [MENTION=7209]Ask Mr. Religion[/MENTION] showed up, we've got to figure a way out to get rid of him.
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What Calvinism comes down to is that their false teachings are all based on God saving unbelievers.
False teaching that GOD saves unbelievers?

Scripture might have something to say about it.

Romans 11:32 KJV
(32) For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.​


If unbelievers have no means to attain salvation, why even preach to them?

Now if you want to word it as "Unbelievers are not saved" (as in while they are in unbelief), that would be fine.
But to say GOD does not or cannot ever save unbelievers is not fine.

And there's that bit about branches being grafted BACK IN.
They are grafted in even though they once were unbelievers.
So, yeah, unbelievers can be saved, otherwise there is no need to even preach to them.
I mean, it's not like "once an unbeliever, always an unbeliever".
Unbelievers can become saved believers.

And let's not forget the tale of Jacob and Esau, one elected of GOD before he did anything at all.
 

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Does [MENTION=7209]Ask Mr. Religion[/MENTION] care to directly attempt to dismember the OP without links to walls of scripture filtered through the lens of Reformed Theology?

#Street Brawl with a Holy Call
 

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False teaching that GOD saves unbelievers?

Scripture might have something to say about it.

Romans 11:32 KJV
(32) For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.​


If unbelievers have no means to attain salvation, why even preach to them?

Now if you want to word it as "Unbelievers are not saved" (as in while they are in unbelief), that would be fine.
But to say GOD does not or cannot ever save unbelievers is not fine.

And there's that bit about branches being grafted BACK IN.
They are grafted in even though they once were unbelievers.
So, yeah, unbelievers can be saved, otherwise there is no need to even preach to them.
I mean, it's not like "once an unbeliever, always an unbeliever".
Unbelievers can become saved believers.

And let's not forget the tale of Jacob and Esau, one elected of GOD before he did anything at all.

Tambora,

I'm going to answer for [MENTION=14521]God's Truth[/MENTION].

"Obey First"

# Disclaimer: I in no way agree with the statement in quotations.
 

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[MENTION=14521]God's Truth[/MENTION]

Read this 5 times, then come back into the discussion.

You are behind. He is commenting on the information that I gave, and, I have already made the assertion that Calvinists do use scripture just as he claims he does.

I have not been proven wrong, because mere denial does not work that way.

Calvinists us scripture, just as you do, and you both misunderstand those scriptures that you use for your false beliefs.

I have also already explained how to stop misunderstanding, how to get knowledge, but you think it is a hashtag joke.
 

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You are behind. He is commenting on the information that I gave, and, I have already made the assertion that Calvinists do use scripture just as he claims he does.

I have not been proven wrong, because mere denial does not work that way.

Calvinists us scripture, just as you do, and you both misunderstand those scriptures that you use for your false beliefs.

I have also already explained how to stop misunderstanding, how to get knowledge, but you think it is a hashtag joke.

Was that...... humor... mixed with passionate reply?

#Hope
 

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False teaching that GOD saves unbelievers?

Scripture might have something to say about it.

You do know don't you that you are now going against Musterion?

More than that, you misunderstanding the scriptures, if you allow me to show you.

Romans 11:32 KJV
(32) For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.​

If unbelievers have no means to attain salvation, why even preach to them?

That is where you are going off track of what I said.

All are bound to the same place...all are condemned, UNLESS...unless what? Unless they come to Christ in BELIEF, living belief, which is faith with obedience.

Calvinists claim that God saves UNBELIEVERS in their state of unbelief. However, that teaching is NOWHERE anywhere in the scriptures.

Now if you want to word it as "Unbelievers are not saved" (as in while they are in unbelief), that would be fine.
But to say GOD does not or cannot ever save unbelievers is not fine.

You just crossed a fine line.

Again, Calvinists claim that UNBELIEVERS are saved while in their state of unbelief.

That teaching is against God who tells us first to believe.

And there's that bit about branches being grafted BACK IN.
They are grafted in even though they once were unbelievers.

That is right, BUT NOT while they are UNBELIVERS.

They have to believe BEFORE they can be grafted back in.
 

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You left off most of it.

GT - "We have to obey EVERYTHING Jesus says".


Matthew 16:20 KJV
(20) Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.

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Your Wrong Tambora!

I'm missing one eye, both feet and one hand.

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# Mt. 5:30 abuse

Wow! Good Scripture! For real! In awwwww.
 

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You do know don't you that you are now going against Musterion?
Believe what you want.
Musty knows what I'm saying.



All are bound to the same place...all are condemned, UNLESS...unless what? Unless they come to Christ in BELIEF
That's what I said.

Pay attention.

Calvinists claim that God saves UNBELIEVERS in their state of unbelief.
Quote any Calvinist here that has said that.



That is right, BUT NOT while they are UNBELIVERS.

They have to believe BEFORE they can be grafted back in.
That's what I said.
Pay attention.



Go reread and study harder what I wrote.

This is fun.
 

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Of course, you think mocking others is fun. I knew that.

Wave that victim flag, GT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



My personal favorite ......

Say what you want to say. Hurry up and say it so I can correct you.

This is fun.
 
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