SaulToPaul 2
Well-known member
Because you are supposedly big on types. You can learn something from Moses.
ECT Seeking list of Hebrews verses from MADs/D'ists that are allowed for Christians
- Thread starter Interplanner
- Start date
Because you are supposedly big on types. You can learn something from Moses.
dodge
New member
Heb 4:16
Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.
SaulToPaul 2
Well-known member
But only God dwelled there.
Right Divider
Body part
Do you think that maybe he does not understand the difference between "grace to help in time of need" and "saved by grace through faith"?
No more than either side of these issues might understand "grace."
Unless either side's ever one sidedness against whomever does not hold their view on one thing or another...never conceding the other side's point where merited...is "grace."
Right Divider
Body part
Sometimes you are as clear as mud.
True.
dodge
New member
Immaterial ALL through Jesus have access now.
Heb 4:16
Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.
SaulToPaul 2
Well-known member
We were talking about the 3 sections of the Temple, the 3 different types of peoples, with 3 different purposes. Those 3 still stand.
dodge
New member
There was and is only ONE Holy of Holies, which at one point only the high priest had access to access , the veil which was torn from top to bottom , and now all in Christ have access to.
I agree that we disagree. From the beginning there has only been two types of people the saved and the lost.
There has only been two types of people those that follow God and those that follow Satan, and even from the beginning there have been gentiles along with Hebrews who follow God and those that reject. God is not a respecter of anyone.
You split what is clearly TWO into three, and I wonder why !
Scripture does not teach three types of people. Lost or saved pretty much sums it up.
Interplanner
Well-known member
SaulToPaul 2
Well-known member
I dare you to read your Bible, and take note of the divisions that God created...for his purposes.
You won't. Your commentaries are focused on blending.
Interplanner
Well-known member
Right Divider
Body part
If you were around two thousand years ago, you would had said the same thing about the LORD Jesus Christ.
Matt 10:34-35 (KJV)
(10:34) Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. (10:35) For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
You are just massively clueless about God's plans and purposes.
Interplanner
Well-known member
Yes, one thing needed to be divided off: Judaism. It was the conduit of Scripture, but its concepts were 'the weak and miserable elements of the world' Col 2. Christ needed to divide from its zealots who wanted to fight Rome for the land, who believed that the main gift of Messiah was the restored land.
Right Divider
Body part
During His earthly ministry to Israel, the LORD was dividing among His sheep. That had nothing to do with the rest of the world.
None of God's promises get cancelled just because they are not repeated in what you think is the "NT".
Interplanner
Well-known member
We agree he was diving among his sheep. He was discarding what Judaism thought needed to happen about the land. I think you are unaware of how obsessed Judaism was with the land at that time.
The temple of God is now Christ.
The passover lamb of God is now Christ.
The true circumcision of God is now to be in Christ.
The true Israel is now those who have faith in Christ.
The true land of God is now ...
Right Divider
Body part
If they thought that God would honor His promise to give them the land forever; then they were right and YOU are WRONG.
What "true land"?
You certainly continue to earn your name; Dingleberry!
Interplanner
Well-known member
The believers show no concern about that. They do want the 'redemption' of Israel, but that was for it to be missionaries. (Judaism had already started and contaminated that, Mt 23).
Funny you should ask about 'true land'. It is no where in externals, but is everywhere because Christ is the Lord and is to be honored as such; the resurrection was the enthronement, Acts 2:30. The imperfect will give way to the perfect in the NHNE.
You are the dinglingberry.
Right Divider
Body part
As per your usual, that is so confused that I cannot under what you're talking about.
That is more confused and contrived hogwash. God promised them a specific area ON THE EARTH.
Nope, that one is ALL yours.