"OSAS" people are not answering this question.

[Lazy afternoon]

Good post Glorydaz. Too bad they won't understand it.

Gros,

Have you ever been filled with the Holy Spirit ??

LA

 

[genuineoriginal]

I don't, so why are you making stuff up about me?

I am not making it up, see your next statement:

False. That is exactly what He does.

Your false belief will not help you.

God is giving you the same amount of help to avoid sin as He gave the children of Israel.

And, just as He did not prevent them from willfully sinning against Him, neither will He prevent you from willfully sinning against Him.

 

[God's Truth]

It's never okay to be a "false teacher" That's what you are.

We cannot reason together, because I do not believe you even have sense from God that is common.

However, for the listener, when is there ever a wrong time to obey Jesus? Answer: According to the teachings of Grosnick and the many others here, it is the most important time when you want to be saved and when you want to stay saved.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

My goodness, they can't even come close to agreeing among themselves. This is what happens when people are so obsessed with sin and the law. They either claim they are keeping the law perfectly or they claim they are keeping it as best they can and keep "repenting" when they fail.

On the left side of the CROSS, there is the LAW, SIN, Death and Condemnation. On the right side of the CROSS, there is no Sin, no Death, and no Condemnation. Those who are obsessed with sin are in the flesh.....the Spirit of God does not dwell in them. Thus they are taken up with the flesh. Meshak, God's untruth, Elohym, and Genuine Original (and Shasta is really confused bouncing back and forth). They cannot stop thinking about sin, seeing sin in others, worrying about sin and therefore are under bondage to the Law. Look at them....that's all they can talk about. It's the forbidden fruit syndrome Paul explains so well in Romans 7.

You're right about this band of, "Think they know it all's."

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Not sure who you are talking about but Shasta agreed with a point I made, and GT and I agree on a lot.



You claim to have no sin while refusing to answer whether or not you still commit any of the acts listed by Paul in Galatians 5:19-21.



That's not in the Bible. Stop making stuff up.



Those who sin are in the flesh. The writers of the Bible were obsessed with sin because it separates man from God.



No. We are having a discussion about whether or not salvation can be lost by sinning, necessitating that we discuss sin and its effect. :duh:

You belong to the same club that Meshak, GT, and the rest of
the confused posters belong to.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Guess you can't see that you're arguing against yourself.....and then making a fool of yourself to boot.

LA has always been that way. LA wears his/her ignorance like a crown.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

I don't credit my flesh with resisting sin. Stop making stuff up and answer the question directly:

If a person does any of those acts listed in Galatians 5:19-21, that proves they are not walking in the Spirit but in the flesh, doing the works of the flesh.

Do you agree? Yes or no?

elo wants to try and "entrap" someone/anyone in his "flimsy trap."
You're not smart or cleaver enough. :chuckle:

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

You haven't refuted that important point, so just claiming we are wrong is pointless and boring.

Evidently, you're not that bored. After all, you incessantly continue
to post on this thread. :chuckle:

 

[glorydaz]

elo wants to try and "entrap" someone/anyone in his "flimsy trap."
You're not smart or cleaver enough. :chuckle:

Yep, if you agree he'll claim you agree with his warped interpretation. It's an old trick...one I won't fall for....learned my lesson well with Jerry Shuggart. He was the master...Elo is a novice.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Why can't you just answer the question directly, yes or no?

Let's try again:

If a person does any of those acts listed in Galatians 5:19-21, that proves they are not walking in the Spirit but in the flesh, doing the works of the flesh.

Do you agree? Yes or no?

Is that the ONLY question in your vast collection of "Going nowhere fast?"

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

You dodged a question by making a false accusation. Boring.

If you're really bored, "Get outta Dodge."

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Could someone who supports OSAS please explain this to me?

No!

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

You don't realize they are dismissing many of those inconvenient verses?

This coming from a poster who only trusts in Matthew, Mark, and Luke?
Meshak, you've said that the Apostle Paul is an anti-Christ. You also
don't believe in, about 95% of the Bible.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

That's what it looks like, but I'm trying to see it from their view. If it's the truth, I want to understand it.

I don't believe you.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

there are tons of verses claim that you cannot inherit God's kingdom if you don't produce good fruit.

There are tons of verses that you don't believe in.

 

[God's Truth]

elo wants to try and "entrap" someone/anyone in his "flimsy trap."
You're not smart or cleaver enough. :chuckle:

It is not a trick. Do you do those things or not?

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

It is not a trick. Do you do those things or not?

I ate a cookie once.

 

[glorydaz]

I ate a cookie once.

Yeah, and you were probably told to stay out of the cookie jar....you sinner you. :nono:

 

[oatmeal]

Of course, Revelation 3 is from CHRIST and applies to Christianity.

Think about it harder. You are believing falseness.

Thinking is not sufficient, you could think without ever reading or learning scripture.

Thinking is not the issue, the evidence of scripture is what is important

Once we have all scriptural evidence on a subject, then you have something to think about.

 

[oatmeal]

Jesus is Christ and what he says is for EVERYONE.

Evidently, you have not read Matthew 15:24

Christians are not the lost sheep of the house of Israel, they may have formerly been one of the lost sheep, but when they did Romans 10:9-10, they were no longer lost, nor sheep, nor of Israel, they are now members in particular in the body of Christ. I Corinthians 12:27