Yes, if that was the mentality of Christians and the actions they were carrying out.
But it's not the mentality of Christians.
It is the mentality of Muslims, and they are carrying it out.
Nuking Mecca - Reasonable Course Of Action Or Bat Crazy Far Right...
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But it's not the mentality of Christians.
It is the mentality of Muslims, and they are carrying it out.
I think you would do well to learn a tad more about Muslims before lumping them all together and coming to such extreme conclusions.
DavidK
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Not all Muslims are doing or even advocating that. So lets kick out all people, regardless of religion, who advocate or plan any of those things, and leave the us all to enjoy freedom to worship as we see fit.
We know not all Muslims have done these things.
Just like all southerners did not own slaves. But a hard decision had to be made that would involve all southerners together.
The Civil War soldiers did not stop to ask each and every individual if they supported the idea before attacking. It was an all out war.
It was a war against a certain section of people and their ideology.
And there was no way to separate each individual of that certain group of people that perhaps did not hold to the same ideology.
Not to mention that even if you did go around and interview every individual before you attacked them (which is a ridiculous notion to begin with), you are going to have plenty that will lie in one minute to save their skin and then stab you in the back the next minute.
We are going to have to face reality and make some hard decisions.
We know the group of people involved.
And there is no way to separate them individually.
Especially hard to fight them when they are not all in the same geographical location as most wars were between.
This has cells popping up everywhere.
I wait patiently for your suggestion of how to stop them without lumping them all together.
Folks here are quick to lump all Trump supporters as bigoted white supremacist racists, so what's the hangup of lumping all those together that support Islam?
Sadly, many muslims worship as they see fit, is to convert by the sword, behead, stone and terrorize others.
I already have explained my viewpoint.
There is no need for all of us to "lump everybody together" just because some fools do so.
| during the last 30 days and during the Muslim "holy" month of Ramadan. Fifty-five terrorist attacks in 17 countries in the first ten days of Ramadan killed 592 people and injured 677 |
Ya'll need to quit acting like these guys are just a few isolated instances.
They are not going to go away, and they are gaining every inch they can.
musterion
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That's the point, son.
People die because those who could be identified often aren't, for purely political reasons.
Yes or no. Do you want identified in advance every Mohammedan who intends to murder innocents to further jihad, or who is sympathetic to those who do?
annabenedetti
like marbles on glass
Are you advocating genocide now?
“Kill them all and let God sort them out.”
In 1209, Pope Innocent III decided it was time to crack down on followers of a religious sect that had become popular in Southern France. Originally called Albigensians, they came to be more widely known as the Cathars.
Cathars were Christians. But they rejected the authority of the Pope and other key aspects of Catholicism, so they were deemed heretics by the Catholic Church.
This apparently didn’t matter much to most people living in the French town of Beziers.
Catholics and Cathars had lived there together for many years in relative harmony.
On July 22, 1209, they were celebrating the annual Feast of Mary Magdalene together, a religious holiday observed by various Christian religions.
Suddenly, the festivities were cut short when an army of “Crusaders” sent by Pope Innocent III showed up outside the walls of the town.
The military leader of the army was Simon de Montfort, a French nobleman highly motivated by the Pope’s promise that he could keep the land of any heretics he killed.
The Crusaders were accompanied by an official representative of the Pope, a French Cistercian monk named Arnaud Amalric (also variously referred to as Arnald Amalric and Arnauld-Amaury).
De Montfort demanded that the leaders of Beziers turn over the town’s Cathar heretics to him. They refused. The Crusaders attacked.
According to accounts written decades later, as the attack began, a soldier asked Amalric how they would be able to tell which Beziers townspeople were Catholics and which were Cathars.
Amalric supposedly answered (in French):
“Kill them all. God will recognize his own.”
Some sources give the alleged quote as “Kill them all, for the Lord knows his own” or as “Kill them all. The Lord knows his own.”
It eventually came to be most commonly paraphrased as:
“Kill them all and let God sort them out.”
Scholars have debated whether Almaric actually said anything like those words.
But there’s no question that they reflect what happened that day.
De Montfort’s army killed virtually every man, woman and child in the town — estimated to be as many as 20,000 people — and burned Beziers to the ground.
The Beziers Massacre was just one of the first of many atrocities that occurred during the Albigensian Crusades.
Over the next four decades, roughly a million more people were killed during those bloody religious conflicts.
Amalric’s infamous quotation was updated during the Vietnam War, when the saying “Kill ‘em all, let God sort ‘em out” became popular among American Special Forces troops.
That “witticism” was put on unofficial Special Forces military patches, pins and t-shirts that are now sold as “collectibles” on eBay.
More recently, American troops fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan updated the saying again in the form:
“Kill ‘em all. Let Allah sort ‘em out.”
T-shirts and bumper stickers using this newer variation are sold on various Internet sites.
It’s disconcerting that anyone can blithely talk about killing innocent people and letting them be “sorted out” later.
But as they used to say in ‘Nam — there it is.
DavidK
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I'd rather take the risk than turn this country into a place where people can be ejected for their religious beliefs.
DavidK
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At which point, they should face the justice system in the nation they are in.
But deporting people who pray toward Mecca five times a day or wear specific clothing is unconstitutional and wrong.
DavidK
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Which is why your analogy doesn't hold up. No group of Muslims has formed their own country in a portion of the US or Britain.
The people living in the north didn't go to war against the people in the south. The United States went to war against the Confederate States.
How is not letting them in, deporting them? Deport them if they are here illegally. Ban all further ones wanting to come here.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
i must have missed the part where Christ said the constitution takes priority over scripture
America got a good look at Muslims on 9/11 - they are the ones who actually follow their holy book. Ive read it, have you?
musterion
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You'd rather see Innocents needlessly murdered, is what you're saying
Incorrect. You are implying something irrelevant. The vast majority support jihad, even if they don't do it themselves. It is especially important to watch it all the way through if you think you are being impartial.
No.
But you go ahead and think whatever you want.
annabenedetti
like marbles on glass
Keep deceiving yourself, Tambora, your own words betray you.