Nation's food supply chain is breaking

rocketman

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Self control for starters... He downplayed this virus from the start and just seemed to hope that it would magically go away until he finally had to face the music and admit it was a crisis. He ignored advice that it was going to be a pandemic until he had no choice.

Nonsense! Did Trump downplay this at the outset? Yes, did every other politician in America also down play it? Yes (maybe to avoid a national panic? :idunno:). Try to get the facts straight Artie, The politicians in this country were briefed the same as the president, at the same time as the president, and they took to the streets, & along with their spokes idiots in the media began their smear propaganda campaign to malign the president when he did take decisive action, it amazes me how dishonest liberals are when it comes to ALL of the facts. There is plenty of Blame to go around yet, nobody wants to lay this at the feet of the actual culprits, the Chinese Communists! If you are in search for who to lay proper blame on, we could all start there. The Chinese Communists are the enemy of the world, and it is high time that fact is recognized.

Britain could have been prepared better as well and mistakes were made. There should have been a lockdown earlier AFAIC as the initial measures of encouraging people not to go to pubs or gatherings were not going to work.

Again, this blindsided every country, nobody realized the gravity of this until it was upon them. Lets, try to be honest here...
 

eider

Well-known member
Do you know what the US Intelligence has been doing to Trump and others?

Do you like illegal and immoral people in high places? Is that what you are for?

I am glad we have a President that knows there can be dishonest people everywhere, even in the US Intelligence.

Ah! So what you're saying is that your country's security and intelligence services are a bunch of corrupt cheats, is that right?
....must remember that....
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
... Try to get the facts straight Artie ...

The only facts that matter to artie (and eider and jgarden) are that they have an irrational, pathological hatred for another country's leader. Because they are insane.




Again, this blindsided every country, nobody realized the gravity of this until it was upon them. Lets, try to be honest here...

The UK total death count has surpassed that of France and Spain a few days ago. It will surpass Italy tomorrow or Sunday.

The UK "Deaths/1 Million Population" metric is 405 vs 197 for America as a whole, or 87 for America excluding the irresponsible morons in Metro NYC

To put it another way, the UK death rate is more than twice that of the US as a whole, and more than four times that of almost all of America

And the most you'll hear from any of them is a brief acknowledgment buried in a torrent of invective directed at the leader of the country that 's doing four times better than them. Because the voices they heed in their insanity keep telling them, daily, Orangemandbad!

By the way, the corrected US data is comparable to that of Canada and Germany, two country's whose leaders are lauded for their responses to the crisis.




By the way again, remember those constant backdrops of the Obama presidency, the threat of nuclear Armageddon from North Korea's missile testing program and their nuclear bomb program?

Remember Obama's ineptness regarding the constant drumbeat of "Syria! Syria! Syria!"

Remember the constant backdrop of the Obama years, the threat of crisis in Ukraine?

I do.
 

God's Truth

New member
Ah! So what you're saying is that your country's security and intelligence services are a bunch of corrupt cheats, is that right?
....must remember that....

Trump is trying to fix it, because some on the top are as you say. You stop hating him now?
 

jgarden

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You read too much fake news.

Trump stopped people from coming from China in January.

Each State has their own CDC. YOU SAID the CDC is Trump's Administration, as if he chose everyone in it. You know you don't know what you are talking about, and you don't even understand what Governors in America are and how they have responsibilities too.
You don't get to invent your own FACTS!

FACT: There is only one Center(s) for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)!

FACT: The CDC is an United States Federal Agency under the US Department of Health and Human Services!

FACT: The US Department of Health and Human Services is headed by Secretary Alex Azar!

FACT: Secretary Azar was appointed by President Trump and is a member of the Trump Cabinet!

FACT: The Trump Cabinet is responsible for managing the Trump Administration which is composed of the various branches of the US Federal Government!

FACT: The Center(s) for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is therefore an Agency in the Trump Administration!
 

God's Truth

New member
You don't get to invent your own FACTS!

FACT: There is only one Center(s) for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)!

FACT: The CDC is an United States Federal Agency under the US Department of Health and Human Services!

FACT: The US Department of Health and Human Services is headed by Secretary Alex Azar!

FACT: Secretary Azar was appointed by President Trump and is a member of the Trump Cabinet!

FACT: The Trump Cabinet is responsible for managing the Trump Administration which is composed of the various branches of the US Federal Government!

FACT: The Center(s) for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is therefore an Agency in the Trump Administration!

You are like fake news.
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
Nothing like national pride, eh?

National Pride, eider style:





UK total deaths passed France and Spain a couple of days ago and will pass Italy on Saturday or Sunday.

UK Deaths Per 1 Million Population is TWICE that of the US and FOUR TIMES that of the US excluding Metro NYC, which sealed its own fate in February by foolishly ignoring the warnings coming from Albany and Washington.


The UK is a house on fire and all eider is interested in doing is playing silly games of gotcha :sigh:
 

God's Truth

New member
he is like an insane man with an obsessive compulsion

try to keep that in mind when dealing with him

pity him

pity the failure of the Canadian Mental Heath Care System that his delusion represents

Yeah exactly, and sometimes it's not worth trying to unscramble everything he says. lol
 

God's Truth

New member
You don't get to invent your own facts!

There is only one center(s) for Disease Control and Prevention CDC!

The CDC is an United States Federal Agency under the US Department of Health and Human Services!

No kidding it is a federal agency, but you claimed it was Trumps Administration.

You said: "The CDC, an agency of the Trump Administration, bungled the creation of the US version of COVID-19 testing which prevented health authorities from recognizing that America was still vulnerable through its "backdoor" allowing international flights from Italy to New York - the nation has yet to recover from that delay in testing!"


The CDC is run by many doctors and scientists.

You are claiming Trump made them all retarded?


Each state has its own center of disease control.

The CDC is the founding institute of the International Association of National Public Health Institutes. This is a group of national health centers that communicate to share knowledge and policy and to discuss essential issues.

Even though the CDC is a federal level agency, there are state branches all over the country where residents and connect with local CDC representatives.

There are currently 15,000 people who work for the CDC.

The CDC has over 170 jobs at the present, meaning that there are over 170 positions within the federal agency alone.

About half of the people who are employed by the CDC have higher level degrees. For example, they might have PhDs, master’s degrees, and MDs.

The CDC hires professionals from many different fields, including doctors, public health advisors, chemists, information technology professionals, economists, and computer scientists.

The current director of the CDC is Thomas Frieden, who began serving in 2009.

The US Department of Health and Human Services is headed by Secretary Alex Azar!

Secretary Azar was appointed by President Trump and is a member of the Trump Cabinet!

And?


The Trump Cabinet is responsible for managing the Trump Administration which is composed of the various branches of the US Federal Government!
The Center(s) for Disease Control and Prevention CDC is therefore an Agency in the Trump Administration!

The Trump Cabinet is responsible for managing the Trump Administration and therefore is an Agency in the Trump Administration?

You sure went through a lot of trouble to try cover up something false that you said earlier.


Trump banned flights from China on February 3 but allowed incoming international flights from Italy to New York which served as the "backdoor" for the pandemic!

Both Italy (January 31st) and the United States banned flights from China at an early date, but instead of taking further action, they assumed that they had created a "firewall" to contain COVID-19 pandemic and unfortunately let down their guard!

Was it February 3 or January 31st? You aren't making sense.

The Trump administration on Jan. 31 announced travel restrictions aimed at reducing the number of people coming to the United States from China to flatten the infection curve of the novel coronavirus that emerged out of Wuhan. https://www.texaspolicy.com/left-hat...rk-and-school/


The CDC, an agency of the Trump Administration, bungled the creation of the US version of COVID-19 testing which prevented health authorities from recognizing that America was still vulnerable through its "backdoor" allowing international flights from Italy to New York - the nation has yet to recover from that delay in testing!

You read too much fake news.

You think the US President is a god over you and he let you down?


The real heroes are America's "essential workers" whose jobs were made infinitely more difficult by a President who chose to remain in a state of denial until March 9th!

You have to much fake news channels. Did you know most online searches will take you to a site with false news information, even the so called fact check sites?
Initially, the UK strategy was to follow a variation of the Swedish "herd immunity" model, but its leadership grew alarmed that the rapid increase in COVID-19 cases would overwhelm the healthcare system and then attempted to switch over to the more conventional "Stay At Home" approach!

Ultimately, all diseases are controlled by herd immunity and or the disease just dies on its own.
 

eider

Well-known member
What's your point?

My point? Surely you don't need me to explain?
All you and another member here do is rubbish your own country, your own people, your own services, yet if anyone reports on strange things that your President does or says you just chuck more American people on the fire in your defences of him.

Maybe it's not all those other Americans at fault?
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
My point? Surely you don't need me to explain?
All you and another member here do is rubbish your own country, your own people, your own services, yet if anyone reports on strange things that your President does or says you just chuck more American people on the fire in your defences of him.

Maybe it's not all those other Americans at fault?

All you and artie and jgarden here do is rubbish MY country, MY people, MY services and as foreign nationals, I question your reasons.


Especially when you consider the fact that your own country is managing this pandemic much much much much more badly than we are.

And that you'd much rather attack my country's leadership than even discuss your own.


Hypocrite
 
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