ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
i was hoping you could sort it out for me.
Nation's food supply chain is breaking
- Thread starter Gary K
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i was hoping you could sort it out for me.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
The UK is most decidedly not "like a lot of other places" - it is unique in its degree of failure. The only country that might possibly eclipse it is the looming catastrophe in India.
The UK is twice as bad as the USA, considered as a whole
Four times as bad as 99% of the US when you exclude the mess in Metro NYC
he was wrong
largely because of the actions of morons like Pelosi, deBlasio, Stein, half the population of NYC ....
there's no reason we couldn't have achieved the same results as Taiwan and South Korea, except that half of our population is made up of infantile leftists
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
Me neither. I took artie and eider at their word that all their precautions were being complied with, everybody was following the recommendations coming from Whitehall, etc, etc etc.
Do you see what artie did just above? He acknowledged it with two words and then deflected right back to bashing Trump.
He is insane.
God's Truth
New member
What is the control you think Trump didn't have?
You are not from this country so maybe your don't understand about Governors?
Tell me how well prepared Boris was.
God's Truth
New member
I have no idea what you are talking about. Trump is the President of the UK?
God's Truth
New member
It is bizarre. lol
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
I was thinking about this earlier when I was outside doing yardwork - in February Trump could have declared a national emergency and used the military to lock down Metro NYC, hard. That's about the only thing he could have done different that would have been effective. Forced compliance with harsh directives, much like was done in South Korea and Taiwan. Except in S. Korea and Taiwan, you didn't have a population made up of infantile leftists who were champing at the bit to thumb their noses at their national leader. You had largely compliant populations who took the actions they were told to.
Here in NNY, with a large military presence, we followed orders, generally. And it shows in our numbers.
God's Truth
New member
I think China deliberately sent infected people through out the whole world except to the rest of China.
Nation's food supply chain is breaking
Working shoulder on the line for minimum wage and without proper PPEs in a meat processing plant has become one of the most dangerous jobs during this COVID-19 pandemic!
Does the President's recent proclamation actually improve on the access to PPEs and working conditions for the workers - many of whom are recent immigrants, some undocumented, who being ordered to jeopardize their health and that of their families!
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ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
How's that working out in meat packing plants in YOUR country?
https://globalnews.ca/news/6857867/alberta-covid-19-meat-processing-beef-production/
God's Truth
New member
Man, how can they not see what you are trying to get them to see?
Right Divider
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Only if you really want massive shortages.
Honestly this may be a good thing, not shortages per se but, having meat production especially staying local, not being processed in large processing plants is a good thing where I am standing. I don't shop at the major chain grocery store anyway, I shop at a regional independent which gets our meat, dairy, & produce from local farmers. I have a rancher friend that sells beef, hay, & some hogs, he told me that this china virus has affected his business but, that he is making the same money. He said that he is selling less product locally but, it pays more to not ship to the processing facilities, have it processed locally, sell it locally. For the consumer, having our supply chain locally instead of at a huge processing plant has to be a more healthy alternative to mass produced food so, I think the new normal might just be better for us all in the long run. I would rather support local farmers & ranchers with my money than support large processing & grocery conglomerates anyway.
Right Divider
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I was simply pointing out the fact that law of supply and demand cannot be manipulated without seriously adverse consequences.
The government, any government, cannot simply force prices to be some magical number and expect to escape the consequences.
Forced lower prices produce supply shortages and that a fact.
That is the problem with jumping into a conversation, you risk being out of context...lol. I apologize, my commentary was just that...commentary, I should have just posted my thoughts instead of quoting you, I would have saved you from correcting me on context :e4e:. Oops
Right Divider
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No problem rocketman. I liked what you had to say.
I'm just so exceedingly tired of those that think that the government has magic powers that can defy the laws of nature (including supply and demand).
Nation's food supply chain is breaking
With respect to the food supply chain, the meat packing plants wouldn't have been forced to shut down if management had taken the necessary measures to protect the health of its workers and their families!
Many of these workers are immigrants, some undocumented, working shoulder to shoulder for minimum wage without proper PPEs!
Given the hostility of the Trump Administration, the Republican Party and the GOP state governors towards immigrants, plant management knows that these immigrant workers are never going to complain to the authorities, which means they have had a "free hand" to cut corners with worker safety to maximize profits!
How ironic that the nation's food chain is now largely dependent on immigrant labor - the one group that this President has spent the last 3 1/2 years appealing to the prejudices of his base by "demonizing!"
With respect to the food supply chain, the meat packing plants wouldn't have been forced to shut down if management had taken the necessary measures to protect the health of its workers and their families!
Many of these workers are immigrants, some undocumented, working shoulder to shoulder for minimum wage without proper PPEs!
Given the hostility of the Trump Administration, the Republican Party and the GOP state governors towards immigrants, plant management knows that these immigrant workers are never going to complain to the authorities, which means they have had a "free hand" to cut corners with worker safety to maximize profits!
How ironic that the nation's food chain is now largely dependent on immigrant labor - the one group that this President has spent the last 3 1/2 years appealing to the prejudices of his base by "demonizing!"
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Arthur Brain
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Self control for starters... He downplayed this virus from the start and just seemed to hope that it would magically go away until he finally had to face the music and admit it was a crisis. He ignored advice that it was going to be a pandemic until he had no choice.
Britain could have been prepared better as well and mistakes were made. There should have been a lockdown earlier AFAIC as the initial measures of encouraging people not to go to pubs or gatherings were not going to work.
God's Truth
New member
That is not true. Trump stopped China from coming to America in January.
The ignorant Democrats made it hard for people to find toilet paper because of their PANIC TACTICS.
Are you kidding? Trump is a hero compared to what your leader did.
In your country?
Arthur Brain
Well-known member
Oh, the democrats were responsible for a shortage of loo rolls?! :rotfl:
I wasn't kidding but there's little point in expecting reason from people who just adulate this guy so you carry on. He's great!