ECT MAD implies both Jesus and Paul are liars.

Danoh

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The following verse would be a lie if MAD was correct.

2Ti 3:15
And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

Jesus would be a liar if MAD was right He said:


If they believe not Moses and the prophets neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.

dodge, all you have proved is what you always prove.

Your having failed to understand that passage you posted there.

The fact is that believing a passage of Scripture and having actually properly understood it, are not...the same thing.

You don't even understand what I just said.

You think you do.

Here, I'll prove this to you...

I challenge you to post other passages of Scripture that show what the Apostle Paul was actually talking about there, in 2 Tim. 3:15.
 

dodge

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dodge, all you have proved is what you always prove.

Your having failed to understand that passage you posted there.

The fact is that believing a passage of Scripture and having actually properly understood it, are not...the same thing.

You don't even understand what I just said.

You think you do.

Here, I'll prove this to you...

I challenge you to post other passages of Scripture that show what the Apostle Paul was actually talking about there, in 2 Tim. 3:15.

Danoh, at the time Timothy was trusting the scripture the only scripture available to him was the OT.

Running off to 15 other things in scripture that may or may not apply does not change the meaning of Timothy having all that was needed in the OT to "to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus".
 

glorydaz

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Danoh, at the time Timothy was trusting the scripture the only scripture available to him was the OT.

Not according to Peter.

2 Peter 3:15-16 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.​
 

dodge

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Not according to Peter.

2 Peter 3:15-16 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.​

Did you miss the part where Paul said the scripture from your youth ? There was no NT writings when Timothy was a youth.
 

glorydaz

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Paul certainly knew his epistles were Scripture. I don't know what Dodge is attempting to suggest, but he is in error.

1 Thessalonians 2:13
For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.
 

Tambora

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Perhaps it would be beneficial to know that Timothy was not raised in the religion of the circumcision, although he did hear of it from his mama.
Timothy was not circumcised, and it was not until the bequest of Paul that Timothy was circumcised so Paul could take him with him to the synagogues to preach to Jews.
You know, like "to the Jews he became as a Jew that he might gain the Jews".
 

dodge

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Paul certainly knew his epistles were Scripture. I don't know what Dodge is attempting to suggest, but he is in error.

1 Thessalonians 2:13
For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

Can you read ? That is NOT what Paul said:

2Ti 3:15
And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

Your diversion is just that EMPTY and meaningless. Paul was referring to the OT.
 

glorydaz

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Call out threads ? Translated threads that prove MAD is a lie.

You know darn well what you're doing. You're calling out all those who see the importance of the book of Acts in understanding the Bible. You are slandering a whole group of people and it's getting old. Stick to one or two of your stupid threads so we don't have to read the same lies over and over again. They did that with the Trinity because it got so ridiculous.
 

Tambora

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You know darn well what you're doing. You're calling out all those who see the importance of the book of Acts in understanding the Bible. You are slandering a whole group of people and it's getting old. Stick to one or two of your stupid threads so we don't have to read the same lies over and over again. They did that with the Trinity because it got so ridiculous.
He cannot disprove MAD because he does not tell the truth about MAD because he does not know what MAD teaches.
He's winging it, and doing a poor job of that.
 

dodge

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You know darn well what you're doing. You're calling out all those who see the importance of the book of Acts in understanding the Bible. You are slandering a whole group of people and it's getting old. Stick to one or two of your stupid threads so we don't have to read the same lies over and over again. They did that with the Trinity because it got so ridiculous.

Got ya up with Acts and out with the 4 Gospels and all the rest of scripture.
 

dodge

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He cannot disprove MAD because he does not tell the truth about MAD because he does not know what MAD teaches.
He's winging it, and doing a poor job of that.

Yep, you said that tripe so it must be true NOT.

MAD is pretty much the opposite of faith in Jesus. Ya know if Paul didn't say it it is a lie right !
 

Tambora

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Can you read ? That is NOT what Paul said:

2Ti 3:15
And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

Your diversion is just that EMPTY and meaningless. Paul was referring to the OT.
You are not grasping what that verse is saying.
 

glorydaz

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Did you miss the part where Paul said the scripture from your youth ? There was no NT writings when Timothy was a youth.

Paul's epistles were written in Timothy's youth. What's' wrong with you Dodge? Too donkeyed down on stupid to even listen anymore? Too stubborn and proud to learn something?
 
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