glorydaz
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Rusha is one of those experts on what "nobody else is saying". She should be a fiction writer....probably one of those romance novels would be right up her alley.
Anyone Who Thinks Another Person Deserves To Be Raped Is A Knob
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Rusha is one of those experts on what "nobody else is saying". She should be a fiction writer....probably one of those romance novels would be right up her alley.
genuineoriginal
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Many romance novels have forced seduction or rape by the hero.Rusha is one of those experts on what "nobody else is saying". She should be a fiction writer....probably one of those romance novels would be right up her alley.
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glorydaz
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I know....they have lots of this "no means yes" business, too. We should insist she spend more time reading her romance novels, shouldn't we?
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ok doser
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"Before he was reported missing, Riggins called his girlfriend to tell her he would be in the area breaking into homes."
http://news.yahoo.com/suspected-burglar-killed-by-alligator-while-hiding-104133932.html#
but no, he didn't deserve this
he deserved to be comforted and coddled and rocked to sleep with a binky
Quetzal
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James Bond also kills people, doesn't necessarily make it morally acceptable.
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Sorry, but no one deserves to be raped. There's no standard by which that's reasonable or moral.
Which is all of the discussion I've seen. It being suggested that people who act a certain way (without desiring the negative outcome) merit the outcome they don't desire. Well, that's just another way of packaging increasing the chance of the negative outcome.
I think that's dangerously close to creating an indifferent caste system when it comes to suffering. I do believe God does intercede in the affairs of those who love Him and who petition Him in accord with His will.
Mostly not, but they can be and have been in some fairly important instances. But in the case of rape they're strongly parallel.
I'm just not in the business of deciding that. And as I said, if we got what we deserve we'd all be in trouble. I'm more a mercy/grace guy. None of us are better than the next fellow in a way that would be meaningful to God. Absent grace, we fail.
No, it wouldn't. There's no standard that's moral or legal that would justify it. Nowhere in the word of God will you find rape as a punishment. Because it's an evil act. There is no good or God in it. So it fails as a moral or secular punishment, if for different reasons.
No one is innocent. No one earns anything worth having from God. We are not creatures of merit, but of grace. But if you're raped you're a victim. They're just victims you don't empathize with. The sort of people Christ was condemned for spending too much time among. And the pious people of his day were outraged by it. I understand the impulse, but I think it's inherently dangerous.
I think you're wrong. Supra. The law of God would never justify, condone or set out rape, an evil, as a punishment.
Thanks. Spent a few hours with him until the room was ready, then I went and drove mom back from resting at home. The prognosis is good. They're doing enzyme testing on him to make sure he didn't have a heart attack, but the doctor feels it was probably something else or a combination of something elses. He's been driving himself pretty hard, works on a number of boards and got up to play a round of golf at six in the morning.
lain: :sigh:Anyway, that's about all I can think to say on the subject of rape. Good talking with you. :e4e:
ok doser
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God rained burning sulfur down on the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah
i'll take being raped over that any day
I'm sure you would. It's still not a counter or answer. It's also neither evil nor unjust. Rape is both.
genuineoriginal
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You do realize that God first prevented the messengers from being raped over then rained burning sulfur, right?
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ok doser
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yes i do :thumb:
No, because both God and the law condemn it. I get that you can't argue very well, but I always assumed you could read. Now go find a good book to curl up with or a bridge to curl up under. You're not very good at this part.
ok doser
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wave that flag at yourself, little boy :chuckle:
Quetzal
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Outside of Glory, no one really gives him the time of day.
glorydaz
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Your saying it doesn't make it so. There is a standard. Reap what you sow. Psalm 28:4
Heavens, no one desires a spanking, either, but they most often deserve one. When you use common sense, you don't need any "packaging".
Nothing dangerous at all. God intercedes in the affairs of unbelievers in order to draw them to Himself. There are many reasons God would allow bad things to come as a result of our bad behavior. Keeping us from even more evil is one of those things. I'm confident the Lord was working in my life long before I turned to Him for salvation.
Yeah, I'm more mercy and grace myself, but God is in the business of drawing and conforming us. Nothing is outside the boundaries of what God allows to come upon us. In fact, I go so far as to say that if God allows a stripper to be raped, it can be exactly what she needs to turn her from the path she was embarked on. It may very well cause her to turn to God for His mercy and grace....because it may make her see her guilt. Telling her she did nothing wrong is the exact opposite of telling her the truth....that she had done wrong, but God could forgive her.
I realize it's hard for man to fathom, but your saying so does not mean it's the truth. Women being raped was a punishment God allowed.
Wrong. I empathize more than you seem to think. I was headed down the road to destruction....not as a stripper, but close enough. Just because you don't hear what I'm saying, doesn't mean you should jump to such silly conclusions as you have done here. No offense intended.
It's like saying I can't see sinful behavior and call it what it is without condemning the person committing the act. I believe that I have more love and sympathy than those who only see the stripper as a VICTIM. She's a victim of her own iniquities that are killing her. Pretending like she's innocent is not doing her any favors. Never? God can't use the evils of ungodly men to punish us? Is that what you're' saying? I think you're wrong about that. God allows a wide variety of horrible things to come upon wrong doers, and he uses ungodly men and their evil deeds all the time. Punishment takes on many forms. Hosea 9:14 Denying that seems a bit naïve to me. Zech. 14:2
Isaiah 13:16
Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.
Lamentations 5:11
They ravished the women in Zion, and the maids in the cities of Judah.
Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.
Lamentations 5:11
They ravished the women in Zion, and the maids in the cities of Judah.
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