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You did a good job thinking about it; that was interesting. Gnostics also say they have secret knowledge. This is the most concerning...

@ttruscott Can you check this to make sure I am getting you right? You are saying: We were all created first as angel-like beings...

IF any one chose to sin before they had put their faith in the only Saviour from sin, then they are doomed to hell. The first thing...

Jn. 3:18 is talking about whether people believe or not. If they believe in Christ they will be among those who are not condemned. If...

Why did they need a savior before they rebelled? Same question on Col 1:23. Why did they need the gospel of salvation before they rebelled?

It especially includes HIS giving us a free will because without it we cannot fulfill the purpose for our creation, that is, to become...

I think he rebelled before you think he rebelled, not before he did rebel... The proof I am talking about is the proof that YHWH was...

The point of this thread wasn't to say that the creation IS a simulated reality but rather that it may be LIKE a simulated reality.

I think they rebelled against HIS claims to be divine and the only saviour in HIS gospel of salvation as mentioned in HIS proclamation...

It especially includes HIS giving us a free will because without it we cannot fulfill the purpose for our creation, that is, to become...

Ummm, then how does Jn 3:18 apply that believers (elect in my meme) are never condemend while those who never have believed are...

QUOTE="way 2 go, post: 1930208, member: 2749"] Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till unrighteousness...

I find no compelling reason to ascribe inherited sin to any of GOD's attributes... Did HE do this to us for love, for justice, for ...